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That doesn't look terrible to me, but I get that the column for content has been narrowed by Vector 2022. I have a small screen and have been affected as well. One of the problems is that the white space between the table of contents and the page content is too large, and has been since the skin was
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clearly shows. Each subject namespace has its own distinct talk namespace, e.g., the
Template talk: namespace (11) is "technically" distinct from the Knowledge talk: namespace (5). To assert otherwise will confuse readers. What I sometimes find confusing is the rationale behind the "R to..." series
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Since these are all actually in the same namespace, "talkspace", I felt it was misleading and confusing to call them "talk namespaces". Technically, "Knowledge talk:" is no different from "Help talk:" is no different from "Template talk:" – they are all in "talkspace". I thought this would be
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from the sidebar after a community discussion about effectiveness. The namespace and its transclusions are still retained in the hope that the WMF will come up with a solution. You can still create and edit a book design, but the online book rendering service has been withdrawn. See
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Re PE. In your first paragraph you talk about "one" talkspace, where all x_talkpages would be. That is not true. There are 13 independent, differently named and identified talkspaces. Your confused reader is probably confused by ... someone saying that there is only
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talkspace}. If you can handle the redirects with that simplification: OK & fine. But do not let the language come back to bite you. What you describe is: I have this single template with that name, and it works for its purpose,
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Education Program namespace is still installed on English Knowledge, it is just deprecated and inactive. It mirrors the Gadget and Gadget Definition namespaces in being unused. If you go to
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different type of talk page, but who knows? There may come a time when that will become necessary. At any rate, thank you for catching my mistake, and thank you both for your lucid explanations!
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talkspace when they target pages that are inside talkspace. Can you see how leaving it "Talk namespaces" in this template is misleading and confusing? especially for newer editors? –
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you might want to think again: what if you'd approach them as separates? - just a hint).
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