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The correlation between skin colour and Sickle cell disease is fairly well known and has been the subject of many public information campaigns. In any case, it is linked for those that require further explanation with details in the lead of the linked article. Half the hooks on the front page require
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relies on two citations. The references are two papers, each of which provide citations to
Bristow to make claims about the consequences of misunderstanding sickle cell but do not explicitly credit Bristow with contradicting this misinformation in any particular way. I would argue the content of the
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Thank you, the change put a spin on the hook that made it sound like it was the compulsory nature of the testing that he had a problem with. In fact, if I understand the quote correctly, he was just saying that mass testing by skin colour is problematic because skin colour varies. I see no problem
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Please remember to indent your comments, and that you are writing for an international audience. The issue with this hook is not that the words are hard to know, but that even if you understand all the words, the hook is still incomprehensible. I've made my thoughts clear, so I'll leave this for
238:... Interesting article bio, no copyvio issues, hook is in the article and verified but not as interesting as the work he has done. The lead is short. I have added some text. Thank you for creating this. Suggest work on some of his achievements and an alternative hook may become apparent.
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Unfortunately, no, I am rejecting the hooks. The original source for this claim says "One of the things that most impressed me in those visits was the realization that many cultures were represented on the staff". The article gets it right that it was
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I understand the hook after reading the article, but on its own the correlation between mass testing for sickle cell disease and who is black is rather confusing. Some more clarity in the hook would help.
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If I had thought it was racist or controversial, I would not have promoted ALT5. ALT4, as I have explained on multiple occasions, is unclear to the general reader.
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Hi, I came to approve this hook, but I can't see the phrase "who is black or how black is black" in the source.--
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