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October', because at the moment it looks a lot like it is saying that 50,000 were executed under Khrushchev. There were certainly people who were killed as a result of religious belief after Stalin, although it was a far more common occurrence under Stalin than it was later and the methodological was not always the same (eg. use of trumped up charges in show trials). :I find it unlikely that the figure of 50,000 would represent the number of deregistrations since 1917, because I strongly suspect that that figure would be a lot higher than 50,000. Thank you for pointing this out, I'll change it if no one else does when I try to add more sources later this week. God Bless,
175:"It is estimated that 50,000 clergy were executed by the end of the Khrushchev era." - this is weasel words. Majority, if not all, of these people must have been killed under Stalin. While maybe you could find some clergy executed on fake charges under Khruschev (as well as some others who might have been killed by lightning) this would be a very exceptional occurrence given the overall situation back then. After Stalin people were routinely executed for murder, treason or egregious corruption, but not for religious beliefs.
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Hi, you appear to be correct. That figure was written by someone else in the original 'persecution of christians in the Soviet Union' article and when I incorporated it into this one, I failed to contextualize it by stating somethinkg like 'by the end of
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