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Your original revert was done without explanation. If they are regarded as tarento, then you can always source that information. Until then, I challenge that information and it can be erased. And like I said before, being anonymous doesn't automatically make you right or me wrong. And learn how to
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I agree with both Voidvector and OddstarDeluxe. It should be Talent as it is the meaning, but if you insist on keeping the japanese pronounciation, it shoud then be Talento as it has the same japanese translation than "tarento" and is neerer both in the pronounciation and the meaning. Finally I will
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instead of starting in an edit war with the other user and you certainly shouldn't have cried out "bad faith" without considering why Belle Equipe reverted you. People are allowed to revert any of your edits and people are allowed to not give you reasons for the reversions. That is not bad faith in
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Actually it should be called Talento instead of Tarento. As there is no differece in Japanese between L and R, it makes absolutely no sense to use an R, where there was an L in the original English word. Besides, it is mostly used as Talento in English articles that discuss Japanese show-business.
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Perhaps I might suggest "Japanese TV Personalities", though I feel that this might not be exactly right. Normally I feel that most articles do not deserve a Japanese title, but try as I might, I really can't think of a corresponding word for a talentless idiot who's only claim to fame is that they
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Now that I've reviewed the edits again, the IP's edits to the external links/references, the addition of the reflist section, and the addition of another definition was good. However, my point above still remains about reverting the revert. I think removing people that have been in the list for a
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team are tarento because they show their games on TV and are sometimes invited onto variety shows. BTW - It doesn't matter if I'm an anonymous user or not since I am POSITIVELY contributing to the article....and that means putting in personalities that succinctly fit the definition of tarento.
1421:), and moved the page. I thought user:Synoman Barris had relisted the discussion a week ago. I have undid my close, and reverted the moves. Also, the target "Television personalities in Japan" was a redlink before I moved the pages around. I apologise for the inconvenience. ā€”usernamekiran 993:
Without explanation? Look at the comment! I DID put the explanation, and they ARE regarded as Tarentoes AS WELL, unlike sports players. Then, are you trying to bring up another false accusation against me as an ANONYMOUS user? Give me a
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This definitely applies to a socialite as well. No discernible talent outside of being famous, being in (tabloid) press, and sometimes appearing on celeb parties/VIP events. (Whilst this is ironic in itself, since VIP stands for "Very
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When you undo an edit without explanation, that *is* bad faith. Also, those deleted people do their jobs which sometimes gets them on TV. It doesn't mean that their job *is* being on TV. That would be like saying that the entire
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Per 2010 suggestion proceeding with deleting all persons without Knowledge in English after 7 days... People with no citations are next.. Half these people are not known to an old man (me) who watches Japanese TV daily for years!
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vocal about why these people didn't belong on the list and now you haven't said a word since I last replied. Please, either discuss this or consider it a consensus for Belle Equipe's version once the protection comes off. Thanks.
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The Japanese media uses the katakana rendering exclusively - it's considered a wasei-eigo word in and of itself, with its own meaning, not just a transliteration of the English word. English discussions tend to use
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There needs to be some sources that some of these performers have actually been featured (not an extra) on multiple tarento based programs or not being mislabelled (ex. the infamous Jero edits or someone on an NHK
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Detractors of the phenomenon have referred to it in an English sense as "famous for being famous" because many that fall into this career line have no discernible talent outside of being featured on television.
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Why is this article named "tarento" when the English word "talent" can be used to refer to a person? Is the "tarento" spelling used at all in the Japanese media? I think the article would be better served at
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The page has been fully protected for one week. Before it was protected, I reverted it to Belle Equipe's version as it was the most stable. Please, Anon and Belle Equipe, discuss this and come to a
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while is controversial. When you removed them, you should have been expecting a revert. Since the revert occurred, you should have brought it here to discuss immediately and gain
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whereas celebrities in the U.S. give their winnings to charity because they are suppossed to have a better means of livelihood, Tarento keep the money and prizes for themselves
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manner and stop focusing on how Belle Equipe reverted your edits. I'll be watching the page and making comments here and there. Please try to stay on topic. Thanks. --
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was used in reporting in articles dated from 2015 and before, and now recent reporting uses its English equivalent "TV personality", as seen in
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program that doesn't do the tarento circuit) because right now it just looks like people are throwing names up there just to do it.
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in that time. If you can't come to a consensus or refuse to discuss it, I suggest you start going through the process of
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instead of "talent," since "talent" is often used to describe actors or other performers in general in American media. ā€”
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Person". But since when are socialites deemed "important"?Ā ;) Besides, female "talentos" would often be called "
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That does not make any sense. Japanese phonetics do not need Portuguese to change an English word. --
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It would be nice if we could use English but is there a word for this in English? We can't just use
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Mayo Kawasaki is still husband of Carolyn Kawasaki. There is no evidence of divorce.--
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Redirect this to 'celebrity' and get this weeb shit off wikipedia
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quote the japanese version of the articleĀ : ć‚æćƒ¬ćƒ³ćƒˆļ¼ˆtalent态Talentļ¼‰--
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http://alecinjapan.com/2007/06/top-10-half-japanese-celebrities/
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Maybe so, I don't really follow little points like that. They
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spell the word before throwing it around like a pejorative.
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and change it yourself! That's how things work around here.
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for additional information. I made the following changes:
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the least. Period. You need to review the guidelines on
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