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that beg references and may be removed. To remove all of these, however, would whittle this article down to a mere stub, and to pepper the article with Fact tags would render it virtually unreadable. I will do what I can to help out with it, though I may not have access to many references at this time. If anyone would like help with improving their citation tags, I would be happy to help. To begin with, I would direct anyone less familiar with the citation templates used on
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Priests" does not reference any works or articles, but is dependent upon a knowledge of ancient literature. Lastly, and most offensively, the phrase "which gave the symbol and evil demented meaning" (sic) indicates an opinion, especially that of a strong bias against satanism (in addition to it's typo). These phrases do not seem to coincide with the spirit of Knowledge as a "strictly the facts" resource.
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agree with the 'demented', but what is "disbelief of mysticism"? Is it like "disbelief in football"? As in you don't believe in pursuing the practice? Saying that the pentagram has "significance in mysticism" is like saying that the offside rule has a significance in football. You may not be
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