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74: 53: 888:"At least one airplane was seen flying ahead, and a rocket, fired by the Ukrainian Air Force, exploded at the Luhansk RSA, killing 8–13 civilians and injuring many others. The Government of Ukraine denied that they were responsible and claimed it was caused by a misfired rebel portable surface-to-air missile. However, the next day, the OSCE published a report, based on 'limited observation', in which they blamed the explosion on an air-strike." 84: 22: 403:
This article needs a quick merge/redirect. It is yet another one of a series of articles dealing with the Ukraine crisis that are simply not notable. Assuming that an article is to be created to deal specifically with the military conflict in the Donbas region, then the information should be placed
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Whoops, i did that. I couldn't find an article that the RSA bombing was related to enough, so i saw this one. An RSA article on it's own would not work because it needs persistent coverage as you said. I saw a "RSA bombing" on the insurgency article, but someone removed
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Hey, i found some minor mistakes, Siege instead of seige. Also you can incorporate all the border crosspoints from Ukraine to Russia instead of only this base, since there are a lot of control points between the two nations that saw and still see military
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We do not have direct evidence of Ukrainian attribution for this bombing. No source linked provides any evidence for the assertion that "At least one airplane was seen flying ahead, and a rocket, fired by the Ukrainian Air Force..."
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clearly states: "Sources do not have to be available online and do not have to be in English." The requirement the sources to be "western" even does not deserve to be discussed (why not eastern, Chinese, for instance?).
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It's not down to what had more coverage: it's part of a broader subject (an incident within a broader scope, not an article unto itself). I'd also suggest that it be merged with
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The RSA bombing had more coverage than the siege, so maybe this article could become that? I'm not sure about that, though, because it might be to biased.--
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Still no news, months later, as to where this "siege" was? If we can't even tell where the thing was, how can we justify having an article on it?
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As I said, show reliable English-language western sources that mention it. They are helpful for establishing notability.
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I see the reaction to the "bombing of the RSA" was added here, but this article doesn't seem to be about the bombing…
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That's the point. Read what I linked. It needs to have persistent coverage beyond the time that it actually happened.
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As of today, the persistence seems to exist: the event is still mentioned in the media (see above).
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You can start by reading the ones referenced in the article. They are more than sufficient. Thanks.
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Thanks, Arbutus. It would be nice to have a pinpointed location, so that we can maintain accuracy.
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original research, there was no "Ukraine border base standoff" as a proper noun/title. --
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Its actually 4 for keep, 3 for merger and one for ether. Not tallying, just saying. :P
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More than enough quality sources over time to merit it's own article. Thanks.
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The insurgency article already has information on the bombing.
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page if it is only to be moved again to another page.
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there. I'm hesitant to have it moved straight to the
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One news spike does not make an article. I've cited
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