140:– The "West Virginia" seems unnecessary for both articles, since they are the only two Samuel Lightfoot Flournoy topics discussed on Knowledge. Both of them were West Virginia lawyers, so the article about the one who was born in 1886 has an ambiguous title. The current title of the article about the elder Flournoy is confusing as to whether he was a U.S. senator from West Virginia or a member of the West Virginia state senate. My understanding is that Knowledge generally prefers "politician" rather than a role-specific title. But both of them are described as being politicians too, so there could also be some ambiguity with using just "(politician)" for the elder Flournoy (although his son's political career does not seem as substantial). —
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