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Republic means, I think it goes further than not having a monarch, although that is certainly implied. The concept also implies that a state is governed in the interests of the people generally. The leaders lead on behalf of the population, rather than being rulers who rule the population. So they can not be dictatorships or autocracies. When dictatorships call themselves republics then they are claiming not to be dictatorships, so that is not necessarily a problem for the definition of the term.--
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democratic republics (Iceland, Finland, Ireland, etc.), there are dictatorships that are republics (Myanmar, North Korea, the
Central African Republic, etc.), there are highly democratic monarchies (Norway, New Zealand, Sweden, etc.), and there are dictatorships that are monarchies (Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, Swaziland, etc.).
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There seems to be two competing definitions of what a republic is and ultimately rests on "people choose representatives through elections". This may be confusing because that is literally the definition of an indirect democracy. Personally I think this article is misleading as it doesn't acknowledge
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At some level what we have here is just a difference over language. The classic notion of a republic is a state not ruled by a monarch or hereditary nobility. It might be a direct democracy, a representative democracy, or not democratic whatsoever. This is the sense in which (for example) the
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While correct, your choice of heading is extremely unfortunate, given that whether a country is a democracy or not has absolutely nothing to do with whether a country is a republic or not. It's two completely different dimensions, and they have nothing to do with each other. There are highly
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So I'd say that the United States is a democracy and a republic (has a president as head of state). The UK is a democracy and a constitutional monarchy (has the King as head of state). I won't edit the page because I'm new and also I think it warrants discussion first.
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Marriam Webster entry does support the idea that "republic" is the english version of numerous other translations of "res publica", but not that the latin "res publica" originated from the greed "politeia".
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