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No, obviously not 北京站. The question is what station name is given in railway literature, I don't know whether "zhan" is a name or the word for "station". I'm all for translating "nádraží", but I think translating what comes before or after it is setting a dangerous precedent, once I get out to zone 3
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I believe the station in Ho Chi Minh City is actually called Saigon locally, for legacy historical reasons and because of its location within the modern city (will
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Kauffner, I don't know about others but I'm beginning to get a bit tired with some of the arguments you will use in RMs to anglicize things - even when in this case there'd be support for an
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If would be nice if you could read the nomination before using it as a basis to make sundry accusations against me. No, I was not referring section of UE that deals with spelling, but rather to the portion a little further down that deals directly with the translation issue. Let me quote it again,
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hl.n is simply an abbreviation for the full name, which is used for the usual reasons that people abbreviate things. I don't think the reason that "King's X" or "Charing X" are sometimes used in the UK is because of concerns that people who don't speak
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Yes probably. I was just pointing out that "central/Central" isn't an option, would have to be either Hlavní/hlavní or Main/main. I'm generally in favour of WP:EN when it's being used correctly for things, places, not waved around to anglicize François
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will be some ticket agent with a PC and his girl assistant in a box room somewhere in Prague. And "don't expect non-Czechs to be able to handle three Czech words in a row."? Are we mind readers? Common sense might suggest the exact opposite - clearly to this irrelevant website "Praha hl.n." is
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We are not debating that the name of the city is Prague in
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Kauffner you did actually argue for a German racing driver's name being stripped of accents since he appeared in English sports sources. Are we to understand that if the racing driver later entered politics his umlaut would be restored? Likewise at ongoing
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something they assume everyone will know. Please come up with some meaningful use in reliable printed sources for an English name (your 48 results are for apostrophe-s 's not for what you've proposed), though too late am now registering an Oppose below.
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Certainly is, not to say that "Praha" is the English name for the city, but to say that "Praha hlavní", "Praha-Holešovice", "London Victoria", "Paris Nord", "Wien Westbahnhof", "Budapest Keleti" and "Bucureşti Nord" are the names of the stations.
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