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988:, holding the third slot on list nr. 1 in the second constituency. But I can't find a WP:RS to add this factoid in article. This gives little indication of exact moment that Pups was arrested, apart from that it would have been after August 1921 and before going into exile in Germany (which itself would have predated moving to Moscow in 1923). He could have been a candidate whilst in detention, this was a common feature of the communist movement at the time to present jailed candidates. But it is much less likely that he would have been fielded as candidate 145: 124: 977:פארטיי־אָרגאניזאציע , זײַן נאָמען אף מייער זיוו און קליבט זיך אריבער קײַן דײַטשלאנד.". Now it does not say precisely under what accusation he was arrested, where he was detained nor the name of the arresting police officer. But it is evident from context that he was arrested in Lithuania, in the climate of repression against the Communist Party (which was an underground organization). There is no reason whatsover to link this factoid to the factoid at the page on Pups at 155: 624: 247: 229: 93: 612: 76: 21: 584: 576: 547: 527: 516: 487: 476: 257: 1029:
The ref calls it "קליין ליטוויש שטעטעלע" ('small Lithuanian town'), but Shtetl is already dimunitive so klayn shtetl would be a small small town so I used the translation 'village'. So today it has formal classification as 'town' rather than 'village', but not sure that applied in 1892 (when it was a
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ref says "ניסן פופס איז געבוירן אין א קליין ליטוויש שטעטעלע אין א מישפּאָכע פון א וואלד־אָנגעשטעלטן" which I interpreted as referring to the profession of his family. Another ref Alperovičius (1984) names the father by name (which matches the patronymic 'Нохимович'), and says we ran a colonial goods
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I object to the drive-by commentary. I see no weakness in the sourcing, in fact there is in-depth coverage in multiple sources. As per notability - he was chairman of a trade union, a member of the soviet (i.e. city government), edited a number of publications, and was awarded official recognition
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in 1977. The official LKP party history uses 'Pupsas Nisonas ( nuo 1921 Zivas Mejeris ; 1892-1978 )', which in its Russian version is rendered as 'Пупсас Нисонас ( с 1921 Зивас Мейерис ; 1892—1978 )' which is a pretty direct transliteration of Lithuanianized name. But in Russian his name is also
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So the ref for the sentence "Pups was arrested shortly after becoming a member of the Communist Party" says the following: "אין אוגוסט 1921 טרעט ער אַרײַן אין דער ליטווישע קאָמוניסטישע פּאַרטיי. אינגיכן ווערט ער ארעסטירט. נאָכן ארויסגיין אף דער פרײַ בײַט ער , לויט דער רעקאָמענדאַציע פון דער
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given as 'Зив ( Пупсас ) Меер' in 'За активное участие в обще ственной ЖИЗНИ связи восьмидесятипятилетием со дня рождения персональный uen . сионер Зив ( Пупсас ) Меер Но химович награжден Почетной грамотой Президиума Верховного Совета Литовской ССР' --
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and a couple of them landed in dustbin), and if your article survives, I will expand it with minor detail I managed to find. Here is an alternative hook "...thait he was suggested to change surname because Pups is a really funny word in Russian:
981:. The Bessmertny Barak page only states that there is a file on Pups in the KGB Moscow archives. We can understand from context that the file would have emerged after his arrival in Moscow in 1923 (most likely linked to Great Purge 1937-1938). 844:"Rare survivor off Bund" - way not rare, not to say that his arrest was nothing to do with Great Purge (Guess where Kaunas was in 1921-1923) - I suggest you not to hyperbolize, here and in other places. "member of city 753:, tried to add something more material, but I was surprized to find close to nothing despite figuring out Lithuanian and Russian spellings. Hence I marked it for notability. I have no prejudice (I myself like to create 767: 442: 407:
Source: Evrei i evreĭskiĭ narod: Jews and the Jewish people. Collected materials from the Soviet daily and periodical press. Sbornik materialov iz sovetskoĭ ezhednevnoĭ ĭ . Contemporary Jewish Library, 1978. p.
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would be a small small town so I used the translation 'village'. So today it has formal classification as 'town' rather than 'village', but not sure that applied in 1892 (when it was a
915:(present-day pop. 552) is a town or a village is doesn't feel like an issue of factual accuracy to me. The ref calls it "קליין ליטוויש שטעטעלע" ('small Lithuanian town'), but 41: 886:-type OCD sufferer, I did some fact checking, and found that the article has incorrect details. I fixed a couple of them, but I suspect more work is required. 749:
And I object the personal attacks. I monitor Lithuania new article feed. Usualy I make a couple or more fixes. Here I did the same: I created the redirect
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administration" is hardly a feat.... And so on. I am not going to put it to AfD, but I strongly oppose littering DYK with trivial boring factoids.
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from the Supreme Soviet of the Lithuanian SSR (re: "The person has received a well-known and significant award or honor," from
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I have already self-removed the tag. And I am discontinue work on this article, satisfying my worry about notability.
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There were plenty of jokes in the soviet union about these diploma, which were second only to the award with
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indicates he was a contributor to Vilner Tog, but not entirely clear during which period (1920s?). --
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The overeall winner , chairman of factory trade union Elvira Sidorovna Plotikina is awarded with the
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I don't spot much factual corrections, apart from possibly the profession of his father. Here the
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A factory trade union meeting announcing awards for hard labour: "The third award goes to
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So I am taking it off my watchlist. If you want any help from me, just ping. I have
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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below.
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foreman Anton Petukhov - he is awarded with a free vacation at resort house in
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Mention in passing twice. the ref does not contribute to wp notability criteria.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as
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this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
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As for the name, the spelling in English 'Nisn Pups' is the one used in
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Diploma of honoor to 65 anniversry is hardly a "significant honor".
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I'm perfectly fine with 'small Lithuanian town' for the article. --
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Now to complicate things further, Pups was a candidate in the
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Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
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should be understood more broadly. The notion whether
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store. Maybe the source contradict each other, maybe
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