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Mooretown's power to efficiency balance Apple's true ultraportable could help bridge the application gap of phone and laptop." This article and this quote strongly support my original assertion that MID is, infact, a specific term.
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Sorry if this ain't relevant here, but surely something like an mp3 player with a browser and wireless access kind of fits as an MID, if not maybe someone could explain from a more basic level what the definition of an MID is. eg is the latest wireless touch-screen ipod not an example? If the article
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a category of mobile device of the late 2000s and early 2010s, providing (entertainment etc.) (...) As smartphones got cheaper during the 2010s, the market for specialized MIDs evaporated."? How does one reference the absence of any new product in a category, and the lack of any market or academic
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