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short trips, eg a electric variant could be better, as its cheaper in use in such case), and it also depends on the model (eg certain electric cars may have greater range than gasoline cars with a very small gasoline tank). This gives a hint of the complexity of the topic, and justifies why a comparison for PAV's should have its own page.
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