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I am going to revert the move (or ask for it to be done). This page move breaks tradition, as there are other
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I hope you do understand what the word "colloquial" means. The term "Khmer Rouge
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How is it possible to work out how many charges there are per crime in the "indictees" table? Due to the way in which the
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At least in THIS article the clean-up has been done. I have removed 'Background' and updated the data on the Tribunal. This article is now certainly better. But much more remains to be done about the other articles on Cambodia.
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since that is a common name for it in Bosnia-Herzegovina. This has not yet happened. Further, the Special Tribunal for Lebanon - by your reasoning - should be renamed "Hariri Tribunal", since that is one of its common names.
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