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al Moldovei, ca si cazacii- moldoveni, prieteni si ajutor al lui Stefan cel Mare si despre care , Sobieski, regele Poloniei, spunea, in urma unui razboi cu Stefan cel Mare: nu ma lupt cu cazacii, pentruca sunt moldoveni. Asta este originea lor, sunt getii din nordul Marii negre, nume generic de moldoveni, dar care traind aproape de slavi, limba lor s-a slavizat. Au fost vecnic independenti, nu se socotesc rusi, slavi, tatari sau alte etnii.
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In the context of the 15th-18th centuries, the Jews often served as middlemen between the oppressive landlords and the peasants, often working as tax collectors or some such jobs. This was not their choice, the laws forbade them from owning property and the Jews certainly did not create this system,
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Who is Wasili Glaskow? Does he work at any university or academic institution? Is he a professional historian. You can find only one pocketbook written by him on the Amazon.com. His "conclusions" about the origins of Cossacks sounds like fiction of Russian and Ukrainian nationalists. Can anybody tell
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Being the son of a Kuban Cossack that fought with Vlasov during the war I heard a different side to the story. Unfortunately most of the members are gone now including a famous writer of Cossack history in Windsor, Ontario. We need more participation from the inheritors of the Cossack life to fill in
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18:01, 19 February 2006 (UTC) Cazacii- sunt tyragetii din antichitate, din marea familie a traco-getilor, care traiau pe teritoriul Daciei, pana in nordul Marii Negre. Tyragetii, adica getii de pe Tiras=Nistru . Ei locuiau intre Nistru si Don . Sunt cunoscuti in evul mediu, in vremea voievodatelor si
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As a Jew (by birth rather than religion, of which I have none) I was astounded to see so little (only one fleeting reference) about the Cossack brutality toward Jews. I have a great deal of respect for the democratic aspects of Cossack society, but their role, under various regimes, in suppressing
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Well expand the article, and being a cossack I find that quite insulting considerign that a) Ukrainian cossacks don't exist anymore. b) All of the Zaporozhian cossacks migrated to the Kuban c)Being a successor of them, we call ourselves RUSSIAN. And in western press Cossacks are more often portraid
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It seems that most of the "Early History" section was written by one author and one or two references. I have put citation tags for at least a month on many paragraphs, and none have been added. I tried to find some, but could not, probably because the citations are the only sources that state the
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Kozaki were and are Slavs. Stop with occultism. The term derives from the "goat-ers". Why are "historians" and "Linguists" always stealing slavic elements, cultural, mythological characters and proclaiming them as "non slavic"? Even Perun was proclaimed as "non Slavic"
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5)I think the best way is to present theories about the Cossacks' origins by dividing them into two passeges: the mainstream (traditional Soviet and Western) and non-mainstream (stuff like "all steppe people were Cossacks' ancectors" etc.).
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If you google around a little, you will see plenty of books, often cited too, published by RS&S but all of them in mid-century. Probably they are not around anymore. But from the books published at its time, this seems a pretty reputable
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the democratic aspirations of other groups (including Jews) should have been described in more detail. I might add that, in the past, one of the most insulting things that a Jew could say about a person would be to call him a Cossack.
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2) Library of Congress has many non-academic books. Its not an arguement. I just want to know is Wasili Glaskow an academic scholar or not? Did he have any other publications (even in Russian), presentations and so on.
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they just survived in it. But when peasants and cossacks revolted, this frequently made the Jews a target of assault and they suffered significant casualties. You are correct that a heading belongs on this subject.
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This article should not be merged with History of Cossacks, because History of Cossacks puts very little emphasis on Ukrainian Cossacks, who are really the most popular and most refferred to as "cossacks".
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soon became the representative religion of the the Cossack "ethnicity". Similarly Slavic replaced Turkic as the necessary communication base. In legend, outlaws from all across Europe made their way to the
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I believe you are correct as to the paper the user is referencing. I also agree that you are correct in reverting the additions: the content contended to be there simply isn't there.
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I don't think it should be merged. It was obviously split so that the main Cossack article wouldn't be oversized and bloated. Add sources and let it be.--
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With this I agree. If this theory is indeed out of the mainstream, we can present it as such. I will check how exactly is he cited in other works.
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Forget it. Big articles are being split, not merged. But there is a piece of wisdom, indeed: the contents of both must be carefully reshuffled.
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I don't think that merge is needed, just more expantion. Even ifwe merge them now, we would had to split them again eventually.--
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of shuffling to do, it may be easier to merge, mix, and then extract the history article while leaving behind a summary of it.
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given information. If there are no objections, I will re-write the early sections, with more in-line citations. Thanks,
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His books were published in 60s, so too old to be able to google anything. But they were not self-published but by
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Maybe this page should also talk about the importance of Cossacks to Ukrainian national identity. Along with their
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I don't know. He was writing in 60s. However, there are references to him even in modern academic publications. --
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is attempting to add information on the gothic background of the cossacks. He is, I believe, attempting to use "
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4)"Some authors" tells nothing. It is beter to call the thing by proper name: "non-mainstream author".
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I too was astonished to find only a single fleeting reference to this subject in both this article and
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Is this a joke? No sources, no bibliography, apears to be a cut and paste from an article. --
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