Talk:Gareth Bale/Archive 1

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starting 11 players for an international team they are numbered from the back forwards - stating the obvious i know but you dont seem to want to grasp what i am saying. It is not an irrelevancy as a lot of people will look to their shirts and want to get the correct number on the back, and like i did after the newcastle match wanted to check had his number been changed. Though you may not think it is significant, in footballing terms it is quite a bit issue for players to change numbers. Take Ronaldo at Real, when he moved their his beloved no. 7 shirt was taken by Raul, when he left he changed to that shirt. if it is relevant for the player themselves to change and significant to them to have numbers then it is significant for us as fans to note when it happens. also with Bendtner at Arsenal 2 years ago, he changed from the No 25 shirt to no 52 because he wanted it, if it was so insignificant why did he offer to replace all those fans who had purchased a shirt at the previous number out of his own pocket. You may think it is irrelevant but it is clear from the precedent set by footballers themselves that shirt numbers to them are relevant and thus in this case it is extremely relevant. The reference to danny rose is also just to complete the fact to save people wanting to know "if bale is no 11 now who is no 3?". Just because you find it insignificant doesn't supersede those that feel it is significant.

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Stated in the history of his 2009-2010 season he took the number 7 shirt Antonio Valencia - for this current season 2012 - 2013 the main subject for that section being added is the fact his shirt number has changed to the number 7. I can find more but i think the point has been made that it is relevant to people on here as that many already have sections, including Gareth bale himself about his previous shirt number change. You would have to justify going to change all of these sections. Perhaps you will now put your opinions and personal beliefs be put aside and allow for the section to be returned, it is not going to be the only topic of the 2012-13 season, but as it stands it is the only pertinente and relevant factual information that will have changed since the previous season. The precedent has been set by all the above articles, including this article itself and being that it is already there listed with the previous change there cannot be anymore debate into the matter

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one usually associated with a defender to a more attacking player. Also, when you first reverted it due to lack of citation, i then did cite the appropriate source immediately. Other than that, on the whole it reads like it did from the very first time i posted it - with the exception of the addition that VDV used to wear the number 11. i shall happily remove the number 3 shirt reference to Danny rose, i dont contest that it may not be wholly relevant. However i do contest that you make out like i have 'turned a corner' when it is you in fact, that is acknowledging that the original pretence in which the article was added to with factual basis was correct in the first instance. I had nothing to do with the GB team and i dont care for that i agree its OTT. I appreciate the fact that you have acknowledged that the information is factual and relevant.

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i contest. This is not a personal belief nor an opinion. This is original research and is factual in its basis and as such can be utilised as encyclopedic content about the history of the player. If it weren't relevant at all and was unimportant it wouldn't have it listed as a squad number in the info box - a box which contains all of the most relevant information summarised. You are the one who is basing the deletion of such information on personal beliefs and opinion as outlined in your final statement. In sum, your argument cannot stand as all the information given by myself is factual not based on opinion nor personal belief.

864:"Well if my edits were this so called "POV" then why do other footballer pages have similar "POV" left untouched on them? There's no consistency, I would assume it's supposed to be the same for all? So why is my Factual, proven and reflected upon in the media text being removed? There's even a link to prove it, and the bias of other admins is obvious. Lastly, I put the word "Bias" at the top because on the request page it told me to put a little bit of text explaining why I've put the template it, which I notice has been removed for no reason. Bias is prevalent on this wiki it seems." 1144:

not exactly newsworthy and having dropped all the stuff about it being a 'turning point in GBs development etc etc and is now cited so its pleasing to see you have turned a corner. Frankly, the bit about Danny Rose is of no consequence and I would normally just revert it but perhaps I will give you the chance to lose it. Frankly all the stuff about the absence from the GB team has gone way too far OTT but will leave the heat to go out of it and editors to loose interest in it before editing down to the bare facts and more appropriate content level for WP.

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with the current Bio of this player alone, a future shirt change should be noted. I would like to point out that, again, with your reference to the merit of the other players shirt changes is once again your matter of opinion and personal belief. Which as you have outlined is against the ethos under which WP works. As i have stated from the start, this is FACT, this cannot be argued. The only thing you are arguing is the merit of its inclusion based on your opinion - which WP does not cater for

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would be too long then? I hope this is not already prevalent in the article. "On 9 November, Bale assisted Sami Khedira's goal in a 5–1 win over Real Sociedad." - does this really need to be included? Does Sami have to be mentioned? "He then scored a dipping free-kick against Galatasaray in the Champions League, a match which Madrid won 4–1 despite being a man down" - does "dipping" need to be mentioned? How about "despite being a man down"?

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tends to be most reliable as they tend to start with a clean list of players for each tournament; but of course not all players are in tournaments every year. Personally I think height should be removed from the infobox as there are few consistently reliable sources, and unless the player is notably short or notably tall, who really cares. --

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You are the people making an issue about something not me. I am trying to keep a contemporaneous record of the player and his time at tottenham. You are allowing your personal beliefs and opinions influence this. I can't believe the hypocrisy of both of you in your arguments. You have absolutely no basis on the ethos of Knowledge itself.

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tour there was a 50:50 chance one would now have a number 9 put on your Gareth Bale shirt - Such was the obsession of some 'fans'/ IPs to 'correct' the article based on no reliable sources! In sum WP does not work with synthetic precedents, unmportant information, personal beliefs and opinions, or other forms of

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If you think it doesn't comply, say why. My reference cites six different sources, from begin October, end October, December and January saying he's been very frequently injured. And all I get for my efforts is repeated reverts and "Oh, I'll rewrite your edit soon". I think I've solved the mystery

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This is a common problem with many articles about current high-profile footballers, which are edited on the hoof. Various users come along and add a bit about a match, goal, injury, assist or whatever, without ever looking at the wider picture. You're unlikely to be able to stop this so someone needs

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In Bale's case, injury is possibly the most prominent aspect of his season so far for Real, so it clearly should be mentioned. He's only played 11 of 18 games, and it's not even 11 full games. Seven goals in eighteen matches isn't impressive, but it gets lavish praise in this article. This article

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Does the exact price really make a difference? The day will come, when it will be superceded by the next madman dishing out an astronomical amount of money he doesn't have in the first place. Why not write something like : "He transfered to RM. The transfer fee was a record amount at the time." That

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It has been cited that the true value of the transfer cannot be released unless all parties agree on this, this is why there is variation. RM saying 91m euros to try and save face in Spain that Ronaldo is still the record holder but Spurs saying 100m euros. There is no way to state the correct one so

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If you did pay attention to the THFC website, they categorically stated that fans should not follow the preseason tour squad numbers as they were not going to be the ones for the coming season, so that point is wholly irrelevant from you. The fact is this is your opinion that it is unimportant, which

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AT the beginning of the 2012 - 2013 season it was noted on the THFC website that gareth bale would wear the squad number 11 as opposed to his previous 3, this itself signifies a movement from him as a defensive minded squad number to a more attacking number. I have placed this on the article page but

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Kieran Gibbs clearly takes Bale's right leg out in the challenge you are referring to. You clearly have anger about the incident in question, but regardless of whether Bale chose to go down or not is irrelevant because the case for a penalty was stonewall. Please stop trying to push your own personal

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Why do you want to have it that bad on the article? THAT seems a bit excessive... Just because he is not on the team does not mean he is injured, could be a suspension or so... And one ref for the missing games, would be enough. Not just matchreports or stuff like that. And IF all of that is already

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While searching for this info, I was also surprised by the glowing praise for his performance at Madrid, including his "perfect hat-trick". I'm a casual Madrid fan, but let's be honest, there was one decent goal but the two others happened because the goalie fisted the ball onto Bale's head, then a

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I have added both fees in the Bale article as we agreed (see the first paragraph and the paragraph under Real Madrid). Also I added "reportedly" in the first paragraph on the CR article, because CR's fee is confirmed by Madrid as Bale's fee is not confirmed by either Tottenham or Madrid club. Also,

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The place for squad numbers on players' articles is the info box. Knowledge is an encyclopaedia not a forum to resolve fans 'quandaries'(?), nor does it serve to provide sports outfitters with advice on kit specifications. In fact if one was rash enough to have relied on WP during the US pre-season

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Go on the James Perch article and you will see about his theatrical fall against Pepe Reina, that's just one of the many acts of cheating that's allowed on the pages of players yet Bale's isn't allowed on here? It's obvious the Spurs fan administator doesn't want it on here, I'm taking this all the

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it is unreliable information. Premier League get it right on first registration but do not seem to update the information each year - we have had these discussions before - so I would take their number with a pinch of salt given Bale first registered as a 17 year old. Per Struway, latest tournament

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Why is it relevant to detail the nationality of his grandparent and how this could, hypothetically, have made him eligible to play for England? Unless there is some dispute as to his eligibility to represent his national team of choice, this is surely not necessary. For example, there is no mention

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Ryan Giggs moved with his family to Manchester when he was 6yrs old, The amount of time he spent in England before turning pro would have been enough for him to play for England. John Barnes moved to England from Jamaca when he was 13 and that was enough to play for England so Giggs certainly could

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On a side note Giggs could not have played for the full England national side. He was only eligible to play for the England schools' team because he went to school there. To play for the England national football team, he would have needed to have been born in England or have had English parents or

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Look, we're all here to improve the article, right? It's pretty obvious that Gronky is editing in good faith here, and he's added info which is backed up by a significant amount of sources, which I see as beneficial to the article. I don't think it's right that you "revert first" and say "I'll get

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I have to say, though you have noted that it is factual as worded and newsworthy, i find it quite patronising the tone you use. I never once included any information about it being a turning point in his career on the page itself, only on the talk page here to discuss the change of squad number to

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Thing is I'm not writing down my opinions as an editor of the article like you are. I am referring to WP policies and applying them to the statement you made on the article. I just noticed now you have added some text back in. The reference to squad number changing is at least factual as worded if

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Some of these references to squad numbers may have merit only in relation to their partiular circumstances. The others frankly have no merit and do not warrant mention when measured against the standards set by WP. However, regardless of this WP does not operate like case law in setting presidents

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You may agree with that but your argument that it is trivial is exactly as stated above - opinion and personal belief. What i am putting in the profile is of factual basis and whether you like it or not if you find it that minor, with all due respect, you should be the one to leave it and move on.

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It's £4m now and £6m later like a lot of deals now. Spurs tend to be very logical with the numbers. I'd guess he'd take over the number five which was vacated by Edger Davids last season. There are a lot of gaps in the 20's and 30's as well but Martin Jol seems to prefer to have the players he has

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Might I add that there seem to be far more outstanding things to remove here, and I'm only reading the Madrid section. I edit professional wrestling articles and the term we call it is week-by-week info. Surely we can't have an entry for every time he scored a goal or assisted a goal, the article

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What I want, is for this article to improve. I'm no Bale expert, I'm just a casual watcher of Spanish football, but I noticed one glaring omission. I can't fix the rest of the article, but I decided to fix that one omission and at least move the article's quality in the right direction. I hope

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Madrid paid a record €100 million (£85 million/$ 132 million) according to the English press, while the Spanish press are reporting that Real Madrid paid €91 million (£78 million million/$ 120 million). Also RMTV said that Madrid paid €91 million. This means that the €100 million according to the

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The Great Britain thing is significant because it received national media attention as some thought Bale was faking an injury as an excuse to not go to the Olympics. However, the injury was most likely genuine and Bale just got back to full fitness much earlier then expected. But because it was a

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From what i understand of your last statement you are clutching at straws to have your opinion carry through on this matter. The fact is, this article itself has a previous statement relating to a previous shirt number change, that being said, for contemporaneous records to be kept and in keeping

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I must be looking at a different article to you. There is a whole section headed 'Style of play' which says how he has developed from a defensive player to midfield /winger player and more. In fact he has been playing as a winger for some time so the change of squad number is an irrelevancy not a

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But there is an agreement between the home nations that they do not poach players from the others, unless they've a genuine case for being considered 'dual'. It's a murky area, though. John Barnes wasn't born in Britain, so he was up for grabs. Giggs was born in Wales to Welsh parents so wouldn't

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If you can give some idea of the edits you have in mind, then they can be given due consideration. As the template above says: This template may only be used when followed by a specific description of the request, that is, specify what text should be removed and a verbatim copy of the text that

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At Southampton, he was superb as a left-back. You will need to find a proper source before you can add anything to the article either regarding Spurs' record in his early days or the reasons for his change in position. And, don't forget, there are 11 players in a team, so you cannot heap all the

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Why is Bale no listed as having won the League Cup with Tottenham 2007-08. He wasn't in the final's squad down to injury, however he was involved in the cup run, including scoring vs Middlesborough in the first round. What's more, he paraded the Cup around White Hart Lane, something I doubt he

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Wayne rooney - listed on wikipedia, in the 2007 - 2009 section it lists his number changing to the number 10 shirt. Niklas Bendtner - start of the 2009 - 2010 season Gareth bale - there is a surprise - in the section 2008 - 2009, listing him being given the number 3 shirt. Christiano Ronaldo -

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You dont need to tell me he has been playing as a winger for some time now, i do follow the team so i know that much thanks. The point is the fact he has been remaining as a number 3 has been a quandary for many spurs fans and as such it makes sense to have that as a defender. When you look at

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It would be useful to know if Gareth Bale has dual nationality with the possibilty with playing for one of the other British teams. Comparisions to Ryan Giggs, who played for England U-21 then Wales International, demonstrate the malleability of selecting alleigance. Does anyone know if he has

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Whilst this is at least now cited (albeit in a local rag only verifiable by those living near Southampton), the statement does not contain facts, merely an opinion expressed by a non expert local editor of a local paper who would appear to be a fan of Gareth Bale. On what basis was his season

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The problem might stem from the articles being mostly written by fans of the club/player. This also leads to Knowledge rules being applied in what could be considered abusive ways whenever a non-fan makes what's seen as a "negative" edit. To get past these problems, I referenced my edit

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In the style of play section it says that his skills made him change from left back to left wing. If I remember rightly, wasn't it because he wasn't very good as a full-back? Tottenham never won a match with him in the team and had only picked up 2 points from 8 games under Juande Ramos.

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im adding this source (as.com/diarioas/2013/09/06/english/1378472217_751539.html), which stated that RM insisted that CR is still the most expensive player ever. However, it is not official confirmed by RM so we have to have the both reported fees on the Bale article as of now.

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So why is it okay for other dives by players to be left alone on pages but this one has to be removed? It's the truth, I can't see why it needs to be removed, unless Knowledge doesn't want to appear biased against Bale? At the minute it's biased towards him. The dive stays.

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I understand that rules have to be applied, but it would be helpful if people who see rules problems helped bring the article toward (what they call) compliance rather than just reverting what I hope is obviously a very good faith ("above and beyond", I'd say) edit.

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This capped an "incredible" first full season as a professional footballer in which he was one of the Saints' "most creative players even (though operating) from the left-back position whilst his defending improved immeasurably as the season progressed"</quote:

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it seems a couple of people dont agree it is relevant. As a Spurs fan and a football fan i think it is rather a significant moment in a players career when at the same club they change their squad number especially after being there for a number of years.

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Hi, accusing other editors of bias will achieve you nothing. Nor will trying to push your own opinions here or on the article page.Knowledge deals with verifiable encyclopaedic conributions. My best advice is for you to count to 10 or perhaps 100 and move

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As a Southampton fan, I've never heard of Gareth referred to as Baley. As far as I know, he has no specific nickname so far. Perhaps this is something the Welsh fans call him? Can anyone confirm this, as if isn't his nickname, we'll have to remove it.

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which says "Do not combine material from multiple sources to reach or imply a conclusion not explicitly stated by any of the sources"; for this reason I have deleted it. You should find a source which actually draws the same conclusions as you. --

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Can someone explain to me why other pages of atheletes have similar information on them but this one is interfered with every time? Also there are attempts to hide this bias by removing my template at the top to request another editor's input.

531:. This was reverted to 1.83m by an anonymous editor who stated that Premier League was not reliable. A Google search came up with 1.8m, 1.83m and 6 feet. I believe that any height should be documented from a reliable source. Any suggestions? 156:

I've edited the section for neutrality. I removed the description of the goal as the tone didn't sound encyclpedic at all, and I removed a few adjectives that could be seen as POV too. I removed that quote for the reason you stated above.

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I was reading a newspaper article about Bale possibly playing in tomorrow's game against Celta. It said he hasn't played since 18 December because of injury. I came here to read about the injury, but there's no mention of it!

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To sum up this article is like its written by one person who writes nothing for 1 months games and doesn't stop writing the next month. It needs to be more fluid and easier to read. Blanks need to be filled in and rubbish taken

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Noticed it has position as Winger, however since around the time of Boxing Day 2012 fixture (4-0 win against Aston Villa) he plays behind the striker, whether you call that an attacking midfielder, playmaker or second striker?

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I couldn't comment on that. The difference is between 1.80m and 1.83m or between 5'11" and 6', so it really isn't all that noticeable. Frankly, I don't care either way, as long as the height is attributed to a reliable source.

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Yes, the exact price does make a difference... if it was the higher amount he would be the record holder, if it was the lower price he would not be the record holder. We definitely need to mention both prices as per Asl9791.

1034:. As I have said in an edit summary deleting the disputed content, "this is far too trivial to warrant inclusion". Just get over it and move on - I can't believe that so much time can be spent on such a minor poiint. -- 237:

In a proper sense 'nationality' can only be that of the United Kingdom. There is no such thing as English nationality, Welsh nationality, etc. Citizens of the UK are nationals of the UK, not the constituent 'nations'.

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Now that you have found appropriate references, I will rewrite what you have added as it almost certainly does not comply with WP policies. I don't have time at present, but I'll get back to this later. Cheers. --

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There's nothing to be gained by adding this info now. While it does look a done deal, it could still fall through over the transfer fee or be postponed. We've been reverting similar changes on the Spanish wiki since

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Que pongais los 91 Millones de Euros. Antes estaban puestos; ¿quien los ha borrado? Vaya enciclopedia, que publica falsedades. El precio de Bale ha sido 91 Millones de euros, no 100. Al menos poned los dos precios

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English press is false. This also means that Bale is not the most expensive footballer in history, it is still held by Ronaldo. I hope someone can fixs this. Atleast remove the €100 million price, because it false.

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I'm pretty sure that ever since yesterday according to Spanish giant article LA MARCA, Gareth Bale is now officially playing for Real Madrid. I bealive he got transferred there for the amount of 93 million euros.

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Según informó Sportnomics, la transacción de 77 millones de libras (91 millones de euros) fue registrada en la Hacienda Británica (HMTreasure) el pasado 3 de septiembre, lo que confirmaría la versión del Real

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as there are a number of opinionated claims that I have previously removed, which have been repeatedly re-instated. In particular, I believe the following statement in particular fails Knowledge NPOV policy:

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I assume you want to add that to the Exteral Links, but I need more information about that site. Is it his official site or a fan site or what? And how do you come to be asking to have it added? Thanks,

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gives1.86 m (6 ft 1 in). Presumably clubs supply UEFA with this sort of detail at the start of each European campaign, so it shows he was that height at the end of last season/start of this one. cheers,

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extensively. You gotta appreciate that everything is stacked against anyone trying to make football articles more encyclopedic. I'm trying. The response isn't very motivating. I could use some help.

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I refuse to give this up, Bale's dive was obvious for all to see. Knowledge is supposed to tell the truth, by removing Bale's dive it's concealing the truth? Does Knowledge not want to tell the truth?

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The fact that Bale has never won a game for Spurs, in over one and a half seasons, despite earning a new contract, is surely now worthy of inclusion. All references to this are continually removed.

846:. Your edit summaries appear to display that your motives for the edits are fueled by personal opinions which have also spilled over into the comments, above in this section, about other editors'. 1099:

which then dictate or determine the content of, or rules by which, other articles are written. WP operates by concensus and by following policies and guidelines. Your proposition here amounts to

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16 lines on Great Britain? He wasn't even in the squad. Surely something along the lines of "he was due to play Great Britain at the Olympics but had to pull out due to injury" is sufficient.

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How about stating both? "The Spanish press (and Real Madrid TV) reported 91 million euros... while the English press reported 100 million euros (which would be above CR's 94 million euros)

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It's incorrect to say that Gareth Bale has never won a game with Spurs because last October, when Spurs beat Blackburn, he was playing in that game, thus, he has won a game with Spurs.--

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I notice the dive against Arsenal to earn Spurs a penalty in their 5-2 loss last week has been removed even though it was a proven dive, Spurs bias administrator monitoring this page?

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Can the word "winning" be removed from the last paragraph of the 2013-14 season section. He scored the second of RM's four goals in the CL final. Who says which is the winning goal?

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to review the article on an annual basis, cut out the crap and write a more balanced summary of each season. The recent edit regarding his injuries and matches missed etc. breaches

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I and other editors have reverted your repeated edits both today and on previous occaisions (under related IP addresses) because it is unencyclopaedic and does not conform with

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Yes, you can do that, but Tranfermarkt are reporting €91 million, and they have always right on tranfer fees. So I think we should believe that €91 million is the true price.

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Not every small injury needs to be listed. For those infos check realmadrid.com or so. If the injury holds him out for quite some time (months) yes, but not 3 week injuries.

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use. I doubt very much whether Redknapp himself measured Bale, so whether his remark is just offhand (all tall people are "six foot two"), hearsay or he is repeating what he

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The game you are talking about was on 23rd November 2008, not in October. However Bale was not in the team that day, sub may be but did not take part as far as I can see.

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have been considered by the FA for full England honours. Interestingly, I believe that players from the Channel Islands can happily play for any of the four UK nations.

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Thanks for the suggestion; an editor interested in this article may choose to take it up. If you want to upload a free picture or a non-free picture which satisfies

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I am submitting an edit request for the page. The edits that I plan to make a some minor edits related to the player, and adding some relevant info to the article.

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matter of some controversy it deserves more attention then simply one line which does not divulge in the issue. I do agree that the page needs a lot more editing,

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I'm not entirely convinced that the Premier League are right - he certainly looks nearer 6 foot; it's a pity that the Spurs website doesn't give player heights.

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http://noticias.lainformacion.com/deporte/futbol/bale-es-oficialmente-nuevo-jugador-del-real-madrid-a-cambio-de-91-millones-de-euros_LIqA7FwbRdsM0kkiuoJsJ3/

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have and should have played for England. By the time Giggs played for the Man Utd senior team at 17, he'd lived in England for 11yrs and Wales for 6yrs.

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No, I used to be in Bale's class in Whitchurch High - and he could only play for Wales. His family are from Cardiff going back to greta grandfather. =]

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Cheers, but how do you know it was £4m plus 6 later. And what is the 6 dependent on? Maybe a number 3 shirt, as he is a left-back, and Lee could leave. (

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This article is a long and pointless one, it is heavily weighted to certain games and performance which in the context of things is totally irrelevant.

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I have now amended the article to show his height as 1.86 m (6 ft 1 in) per the UEFA profile and copied this thread to the article's talk page. --

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Gareth Bale just scored a brace against Sevilla in a 7-3 win which I believe is a very important component of his early sporting life in Madrid.

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Former Real Madrid president Ramón Calderon says several times that Bale cost 100million euros also says 'everyone knows' they paid 100 for Bale

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Fine, I'll add yet more references to show that I'm not the only person on the planet who noticed that Bale's been injured more than he's played.

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http://www.cadenaser.com/deportes/articulo/real-madrid-paga-91-millones-gareth-bale-cobrara-millones-temporada/csrcsrpor/20130901csrcsrdep_22/Tes

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His style is more like an inside forward rather than a winger. This is because he likes to go inside from wide position to a central position.

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It hardly constitutes a "neutral" point of view to refer to any newspaper as a "local rag", especially when you indicate you have not seen it.

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Please change Gareth Bale's picture to a more recent one of him playing for Real Madrid, as this is his current club, as oppose to Tottenham.

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Confirmado: Bale NO es el fichaje más caro de la historia,costó 91M€ (£77M).La transacción fue registrada en HMTreasury (Hacienda Británica)

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He's already played for the Wales senior team, so even if he did have dual nationaly, he would not be eligable to play for any other country.

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http://ecodiario.eleconomista.es/futbol/noticias/5105368/08/13/El-Real-Madrid-cierra-por-fin-el-precio-de-Bale-91-millones-por-el-gales.html

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Can anyone find a reference to this outside of wikipedia, as i'm sure i've heard this before from a reliable source that he is a sufferer.

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should replace it. "Please change X" is not acceptable and will be rejected; the request must be of the form "please change X to Y". --

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it can be listed as disputed and both listed but you cannot have one without the other being that there is no way to know with certainty.

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Page is nonsense, so what he scored against Man City. Is the fact he got injured against Basel relevant? You can't list all his injuries.

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What part "very soon" in the URL lead you to believe it had actually been completed? Patience! We don't want another Willian situation!

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If you want to suggest a change, please request this in the form "Please replace XXX with YYY" or "Please add ZZZ between PPP and QQQ".

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I added a ref for each match because I got the distinct feeling you'd accept nothing less. Your instant revert seems to confirm this.

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on Jermain Defoe's page that he would have been eligible to play for the St Lucia National Football Team through his grandparents.

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Have to agree with you on the GB information, just had a quick read of that. Definitely needs reducing down to relevant content.

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How much did Spurs pay in the transfer? Was it £5m or 10m? Also what squad number will he wear, or is this yet to be finalised?

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grandparents. However, both his parents and all four grandparents are Welsh. (See the Ryan Giggs Knowledge page for more info.

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I would go with the Redknapp interview. Mainly because it is the most recent but also because he does look about 6 ft 2.

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would've done if not a part of the team in some way/ qualifying for a medal? Would seem a little strange other wise?

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Me parece una tomadura de pelo que se niegue poner los 91.000.000 cuando el Real Madrid oficialmente da esa cifra.

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Gareth bale joins real madrid from tottenham for £86.16 million €101 million euros on a £300,000 a week contract

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Whatever the price is it shouldn't be listed in US Dollars. Either GBP or EUR would be suitable - ideally both.

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Translation: I find it a joke for refusing to put 91,000,000 when Real Madrid officially reports that figure.

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The FA Website is notoriously unreliable. It puts Tom Huddlestone's weight at 70.82 KGS, or 11 stone 2 lbs.

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this article but it does not sound like an encyclopedia, it sounds like it was written by Bale's media team

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and he didn't join them for another year. This is why we have nothing to lose by waiting a couple of days.

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I was just going to add his player of the month award, but is it me, or does that section just look messy?

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http://sports.ndtv.com/football/news/213435-cristiano-ronaldo-is-the-boss-at-real-madrid-says-gareth-bale

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Could I please edit the Gareth Bale page? I have useful information that is currently not on the page.

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Every award should be cited which can make it look messy. Apart from that, it looks fine to me. --

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http://www.abc.es/realmadrid/noticias/20130830/abci-madrid-asegura-tener-cerrado-201308301809.html

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Can you point to another article which puts so much importance on a change in squad number? --

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In December 2013, Bale was ranked by The Guardian as the seventh-best footballer in the world.

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I change the lead removing orientated because it was not needed, offensive player is enough.

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I don't know why my IP keeps changing, I'm not doing it but this is taken from my talk page:

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brought in wearing the traditanal numbers. Although there are some exeptions noteably Lennon

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Many media sources report the transfer was 91 million euros (example Agence France Presse:

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I've added a line about this, but I don't know the details so it's very incomplete.

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I guess a number should not be added until more sources with #'s pop up later on...

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Nothing is official yet, so no edits can be made until the official announcement. --

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Agreed, I have removed my own comment, as a better referenced entry has been made.

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others can do more to turn this tabloid puff piece into an encyclopedia article.

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way the sentence will still be true once the next record transfer has happened.

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http://sports.ndtv.com/football/news/213406-granted-bale-now-spain-wants-results

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There are various sources for many players' heights, but I'm confused regarding

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If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the

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http://www.transfermarkt.com/en/gareth-bale/transfers/spieler_39381_942395.html

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of why no one's bothering to try to improve the quality of football articles.

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http://www.transfermarkt.com/en/gareth-bale/transfers/spieler_39381_942395.html

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expressed a desire to play for England or has he declared alleigance to Wales?

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it's just a puff piece, a real low point for Knowledge. Can anyone fix it?

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http://www.marca.com/2013/09/01/futbol/equipos/real_madrid/1378058627.html

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http://cincodias.com/cincodias/2013/08/23/sentidos/1377284463_900616.html

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In addition to the above, Bale was a league cup finalist in 2008-09.

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In a football sense 'dual nationality' meaning to play for two teams?

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removed Bale's earlier honours. Can this edit be undone? Thankyou.

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Just to let you know, there are other users here who agree with

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Gareth bale is a player who plays for spanish club real madrid

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defender crossed it onto his foot. I only read a few bits of

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He's not English or wants to play for England. Keep dreaming.

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Generally because they're unreferenced and poorly written.

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He won a Man of The Match award - Seriously? I am suprised.

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http://www.expansion.com/2013/09/01/entorno/1378061936.html

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and in any case the storyline fails to meet what passes as

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Please change "orientated" to "oriented" because English.

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Reads like a promotional piece - nothing about his injury?

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back to this later", or cite "this looks horrible" or "

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Rumours of joining Barcelona and Chelsea? Any sources?

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gareth bale has recently made a switch to real madrid

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blame for a team's poor performance on one player. --

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on the article, why the need of an extra paragraph?

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