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Hello, I would like to edit this document and add a section involving Jewish and
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I am currently doing a section on Saint-Louis, I'll expand it and diversify sources as I progress. I'm not sure about my spelling though so feel free to correct me. I'll add more sections later more precisely on Philip II and IV as well as on the earlier capetians. I may also add stuffs on the
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I moved the history section above that containing geography, demographics and language. History is what the article is about, and also I think it's hard to make sense of the geography section in particular, without knowledge of the history of that period.
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The "Middle Ages" is the actual time period. "Medieval" means "of, or pertaining to, the Middle Ages". Therefore, it would seem more correct to use the noun rather than the adjective. Perhaps semantic but I would say that is the reason.
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subpages have these same sections and this same order. This being said, if the general consensus of the
History of France major contributers/editors is for change, then we can go ahead with it... but this should be
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any concerns and incorporate any changes this group feels necessary. If you have any questions or find issue with my contribution please leave me a comment on either this talk page or my individual talk page.
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That doesn't really explain anything. Why are those titles not at "Medieval
Britain", "Medieval Germany", "Medieval Spain", etc? They all have a lead that use that title and still they use the long and bulky
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