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these. While security concerns do make it difficult to find information about these, & would probably make it difficult to keep this info in the article, still I'd expect at least some mention of these facilities being in Djibouti & maybe the year they were established. It's not as if no one living there is unaware of their existence. --
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were merged by cutting and pasting with "Djibouti (city)" as the article location on the grounds that the editor rarely saw "Djibouti City" being used. Whilst this is probably true, I think we need to bear in mind that this is a country where French is more likely to be used than English and as such
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name, not necessarily their official one, and nominator hasn't provided any evidence that "Djibouti City" isn't a normal and common way of disambiguating the city from the country. But even if this were to get moved, the correct parenthetical disambiguator would be "(city)", not "(capital)". So I'd
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This is an odd oversight: according to the map of the city, there are a couple of French military bases, one American, & one Japanese military base in the city around the International airport, & a related article mentions a Chinese naval base in the area -- yet not one word about any of
950:– This has been proposed before, with not much discussion previously. From what I can tell, it is common for the city to be called either "Djibouti" or "Djibouti City" in English. (We currently use "(city)" to disambiguate the article name from the country, which shares the same name and is at 492:; deletions can take a little longer at Commons than they do on Knowledge. This gives you an opportunity to contest the deletion (although please review Commons guidelines before doing so). The best way to contest this form of deletion is by posting on the image talk page. 1072:. The uncapitalized version is basically the same form of adding a non-proper noun disambiguation word in parentheses, and the usual way on WP of doing that seems to me to be adding a word in parentheses, not just tacking on an extra common noun word without parentheses. 1271:– Djibouti is the capital of the country of Djibouti. The BBC, CIA, and Britannica all have the capital listed as Djibouti, not Djibouti City. I think it is more reasonable that the title of the article of the city of Djibouti be called Djibouti without the city. 1038: 1955:(no license :-( specified) are not the same names as on this page and differ as well in shape to the map here. The one I bought from tourist office (not free of course) might not show the official organisational names, but it is different again. 962:, with around 3000 in google books, 800 in google news, and 300 in google scholar – so the proposed form is not uncommon. I think using "Djibouti City" would be a more natural form and in line with articles in similar situations, such as 405:, which between them share information on the city and the region. These need to be combined into either one overall article or rescoped into one for the city itself and one for the surrounding region. The redirect at 2007:
What is the contradiction? Would it be clearer with something like "Djibouti (city) has a population ..." or "The city has a population ..."? Or does the number not match the one mentioned on the country's page?
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mentions the city consists of 3 "communes" which consist of total 6 "arrondissement". The districts ("quartier") are mentioned as part of the "arrondissement". Unfortunately all the sources are defect weblinks.
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In many cases on Knowledge, an entity whose capital city is the same name as the entity itself results in the page for the capital city being labeled as 'Place'+'City'.
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is more common, since the majority of the hits that result from "Djibouti" alone are going to be for the country. But I get 330,000+ for a Knowledge-less search of
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seems to be plain "Djibouti". CIA and others agree. (Also, the Luxembourg RM only had two respondents - I don't know strong the consensus for that one is.)
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The article states, "Djibouti has a population of around 600,000 inhabitants, which counts for 54% of the country's population." Which is it? --
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per my statements in the previous RM. "Djibouti, Djibouti" is redundant enough that parenthetical disambiguaton is the better option.
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This article has previously been nominated to be moved. Please review the prior discussions if you are considering re-nomination.
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be willing to consider a substantive nomination to move this to the "(city)" form, but "(capital)" isn't the appropriate choice.
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Wow, these two duplicate articles both have been around since 2004. And no one thought about merging them until a month ago. --
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Is there any reliable source for the districts of Djibouti City? The few sources I find differ. The ones on
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as bad disambiguation. I'd be fine with overturning the last RM and moving it back to
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gives a variety renditions with "Djibouti City" not all that common. Oppose
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How come almost 81% of Djibouti's population live in the capital?
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