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the user has replaced it several times with a source from 7digital that lists it as October 4th. It's common knowledge in music articles that the first release date for a format is used, regardless of the store. The user has done the same with the release dates for Canada. A minor issue is the add
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Sorry but I have a couple problems with the article, particularly the references. There is a random ] in the second reference. Ref. 10 and 125 are the same website but have a different publisher format, plus all the citations from 99 to 124 need proper publishers. There is inconsistency with date
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But WP:CAPTION clearly states, "Different people read articles different ways. ... For those readers, even if the information is adjacent in the text, they will not find it unless it is in the caption". I don't really know how to write another better caption, since "Rihanna performing at the V
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I agree. Seems like the most appropriate genre. Of course if we get a better source stating the genre specifically later on, it can certainly be changed. Per the definition of soft rock: "Soft rock is a style of music which uses the techniques of rock music to compose a softer, more toned-down
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I believe it is just intended to be a FF single. It is the parent album and the album version was used for the video. Also, the radio mix of Criminal was a last minute addition of the remix album. Prior to the radio mix just a plan old remix of Criminal was planned for the album.
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Soft rock is a style of music which uses the techniques of rock music (often combined with elements from folk rock and singer-songwriter pop) to compose a softer, more toned-down sound. Soft rock songs generally tend to focus on themes like love, everyday life and relationships.
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The lead of the article says Criminal is a single from Femme Fatale but iTunes lists Criminal (Radio Mix) as a single from B In The Mix: The Remixes Vol.2. Most editions of the remix album contain the radio mix (first track on the record) of Criminal.
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I know this isn't exactly a good source for Knowledge, but I am signed up for updates from Britney's website and the e-mail announcing the release of the Criminal says "The brand new music video for Britney's 4th Femme Fatale single".
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Itunes clearly says RCA is releasing the single, but shouldn't we list Jive too since Jive was the label that originally released the song via the whole album? Actually, isn't Jive just part of RCA now...so wouldn't Jive still apply?
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I wouldn't say that "proper publishers" were GA criteria, in the sense that enough material is provided for verifiability at the moment, nor is date consistency. However the other things need looking at (thanks Till).
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How exactly does that make sense? Britney and her label usually only release 4 or 5 singles off a studio album. So no fifth Femme Fatale single doesn't automatically make this a BITM single. --
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I support adding "soft rock", but I think others might take it as SYNTH as Ipodnano said. Maybe, just "rock" as the genre? We can describe the song is a rock ballad in the composition section?
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Festival. Her music video for we found love..." would be not only too big, but it wouldn't make sense regarding the section's context. Do you have any ideas on how this can be re-written? -
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keeps removing several sources from the section and replacing them with unformatted references. Although both Amazon and iTunes list the single's release date in the US as September 30th,
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I don't agree, it's a pop, not a Soft Rock song. I've been listening to Soft Rock songs for the last years, and this is not Soft Rock. It could be a dance-pop, but with a slower tempo.
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Some spaced em-dashes are present. They should either be spaced en-dashes or unspaced em-dashes (not really a GA thing but I imagine you might want to take this on).
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It doesn't. I have shortened it to two paragraphs just so the visual of the page can look better. Or is it needed to be on huge paragraph with all those reviews? -
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I definitely agree that September 30th is the best choice. I think the sites that provide the download are far more reliable then sites reporting on those sites. --
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Images are fine (I accept the FURs); however, the captions could do with more focus on the image and less on the accompanying text (particularly the Rhianna one)
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date for American mainstream radios: FMQB lists it as October 4th, and AllAccess as October 11th. Both are reliable, but I think the earlier date should be used.
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The italics on "just once" must be an addition and I don't think they're warranted as emphasis. In fact there are a few uses which need closer consideration.
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I was going to open a thread asking if it should be a single just from BITM and not from FF, but the FF version was used for the video so now I have no idea.
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Unfortunately, there aren't any sources for an specific genre. But Carl Wilson of the LA Times wrote that it is "awkwardly pitched between rock and ballad"
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I think we should revisit this again if there are no more singles from FF after this one. Then it would totally mean that it was a single from BITM.
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Neither citation says pop or soft rock, and folk-style flute which is not same as genre. Genre remains unknown but need reliable source for genre.
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It makes sense to me, but the wording should be agreed, not just reverted with the edit summary of "what is the problem with you people?" --
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Does there really need to be a picture of Rihanna in this article just because the video for the song was compared to "
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Actually, VEVO used the Radio Mix, while iTunes used the album version. It is a single from FF only, however. -
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the lead vocalist (or lead singer) is the member of a band who sings the main vocal portions of a song
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It's not the paraphrasing, it's identifying a flow. How does the content of each paragraph differ?
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The "Critical reception" section is a bit of a list. Were you going with a theme per paragraph?
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Should this article also lists Criminal as a single off the B In The Mix Vol.2? I believe so.
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The flute is described by reviewers as folk-like so I think it's even more appropiate. --
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The SameSame source isn't reliable. It was written by a user of the website.
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Can I request to edit Britney Spears's Criminal song page? Thanks!
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Placing article on hold, I'd hope to get this wrapped up quickly.
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Not Like the Movies has "pop, teen pop" as genres though, lol.
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which would suggest you're using it in a generic way as well.
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The release date was pushed up from October 11 to October 4.
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formats (i.e January 1, 1901 or 1901-01-01). And what makes
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I think that's as accurate as we can get it. Good find! :)--
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Criminal, single from Femme Fatale and B In The Mix Vol.2?
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Generally very good, as I expected. A few small things:
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I think soft rock would fit better, just as it does in
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I don't think the other reviewer even started it. -
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