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My direct knowledge is limited to the New York State prison system, but there the "forced" labor is sought after and competed for. Nothing forced about it, except that every inmate in general population had to have some kind of "job", most of which were things like mopping floors for 10¢/hour. A wage
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I grew up in mississippi and well remember my great grandfather share cropping in the yazoo mississippi area, this was not only blacks as this article seems to represent but poor whites as well, and this practice continues today though, called leasing on quarters. Now to address the wages of convict
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of 25-40¢ an hour was pretty good (this was almost 10 years ago), and there wasn't much to spend money on. It broke the monotony, and in some cases let the inmates feel they were making a contribution to society. NYS Motor
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