Knowledge

Talk:Civil disorder

Source đź“ť

31: 469: 448: 259: 238: 364: 343: 479: 374: 85: 269: 64: 969: 22: 174: 153: 751:, who have quite different characterisations of the feelings, motivations and behaviours of those in crowds. Broadly, they present them as being substantially more rational and consciously-directed than this article describes. Perhaps this article should be revised to give this account of crowd psychology, as well as other creditable opinions that can be found. 1017:
Anyone else think this section and its subsections are really poorly inserted here? It's a third of this article and it's entirely from a single random army manual from 1985? That seems pretty sloppy and smacks a little of original research of a primary source. It's especially concerning considering
949:
Rtw:murder this acticule is just pure misinformation protestors are not enganging in unlawful,terroist, acts we have a right to protest.cop willingly paticpate in violence they decided to be a cop and decided to put themselves in danger.protestors are not manipulatedwhite people do not get to decide
929:
civil unrest in a negative light. It also implies that civil unrest is unnecessary and detrimental to "civilized" society, which isn't true in the slightest, but I'm not going to rant about my political views right now. The wording in this phrase also concerns me very much, particularly the "in any
995:
tw:murder this acticule is just pure misinformation protestors are not enganging in unlawful,terroist, acts we have a right to protest and to equate the protestors to a "mob" is false.cop willingly paticpate in violence they decided to be a cop and decided to put themselves in danger.protestors are
1122:
currently redirects to 'Civil disorder', the article of this talk page, but these are two different terms: China (PRC) and perhaps a few other countries in South-East Asia use the phrase 'social unrest' as a euphemism for any kind of protest involving a number of people that is not tiny or small.
1066:
This article breaks much of these rules. For starters it deals completely with the US, treats US government sources as the bees knees of sources of scholarly citations, uses POV pushing words and phrases and has an entire section dedicated to giving the US government definition of a worldview. We
1067:
need to clean up this article to be more neutral and also stop United States Government definitions of civil uprising, instead we should use scholarly definitions those are reliable citations. We stop referring to those who engage in civil uprising "agitators" or other nonsense.
996:
not manipulated.we as white people do not get to decide what are acceptiable ways someone should grieve and the protestors are targeting buisnessis that do what theft why do we let some instances of rioting like after a football game but not when black lives are being murdered?.
560: 770:
For purposes of this chapter: (1)The term “civil disorder” means any public disturbance involving acts of violence by assemblages of three or more persons, which causes an immediate danger of or results in damage or injury to the property or person of any other individual.
908:
There are others in the article, but I won't quote them here; if you're interested, you can find them yourself. Obviously, these are all easily rectified (something I will probably do soon if that's alright), but I'm concerned over who put them there in the first place.
793:"An activity" does not clarify what activity would constitute a civil disorder. It could encompass any range of motion. Needs clarification as per US Code. (Ie an activity of violence, vandalism or destruction of property or harm of persons) 1018:
this is written from an adversarial combative perspective, not an academic, and seems to have only found its way into this article fairly recently. I'd recommend pulling it out or finding a better source. Let me know what you think. --
1084: 35: 950:
what are acceptiable ways someone should grieve and the protestors are targeting buisnessis that do what theft why do we let some instances of rioting like after a football game but not when black lives are being murdered?.
930:
form" the author decided to nudge in there. And sure, the quote is cited, but I'm worried it was cited from a potentially biased source. I can't check where they got it from as the url isn't shown in the references section.
864:
There are a number of grammar issues that concern me here. Easily rectified, but I wanted to bring it to everyone's attention. Here's an example. Errors that I have noticed I have put in italics for ease of the reader:
1023: 619: 1169: 1058: 543: 220: 185:, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Crime and Criminal Biography articles on Knowledge. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join 1159: 1108: 1174: 854: 1019: 955: 135: 1070:
In a nutshell we need to get this article to be more neutral, use scholarly academic citations, and stop using the US governments definitions of civil unrest as a source.
917:
This is undoubtedly an issue that has been covered already. However, a number of quotes – one quote in particular – have me concerned over the neutrality of the article:
1063:
Knowledge is supposed to be a place of free knowledge a universal source of knowledge its supposed to tell universal unrest and be a place to learn about that knowledge.
1199: 912: 1048: 951: 756: 509: 505: 1079: 186: 841: 827: 808: 794: 772: 1184: 765: 125: 1032: 1000: 935: 743:
The article is based almost entirely on what is written about crowds in the US Army's Field Manuals. There are social psychologists, such as colleagues
325: 501: 181: 158: 780: 615:). Civil unrest and strife are not planned, they may involve a whole country, and the people involved wouldn't think of themselves as "activists".  -- 430: 1234: 1052: 533: 1194: 210: 1093: 931: 859: 101: 1239: 1179: 732: 1209: 790:
Civil disorder, also known as civil disturbance or civil unrest, is "an activity" arising from a mass act of civil disobedience
491: 315: 1027: 1229: 1219: 1154: 816: 802: 420: 92: 69: 760: 691: 849: 835: 1189: 1164: 1224: 1113: 738: 652: 647: 624: 656: 496: 453: 785: 291: 1204: 1135: 1044: 639: 396: 1214: 939: 752: 683: 821: 1089:
The following Wikimedia Commons file used on this page or its Wikidata item has been nominated for speedy deletion:
710: 959: 1149: 282: 243: 840:
Demonstration is not an act of "civil disobedience". Overly broad definition and lacking neutrality in wordage.
661: 679: 387: 348: 1104: 673: 44: 600: 581:, as in "The Peace Monitoring Group (PMG) on Bougainville in Papua New Guinea was brought about by the 845: 831: 812: 798: 776: 892:
prejudices and unsatisfied desires – usually restrained – are unabashedly released. ... leading to
706: 728: 1037:
So in this wikipedia article massive violent unrests are called "protests"?? Are you kidding me?
603:), and "Tensions finally reaching the boiling point on 21 October 1993 when President Ndadaye was 395:
on Knowledge. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join
290:
on Knowledge. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join
100:
on Knowledge. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join
1100: 669: 643: 586: 1005: 687: 873:
a crowd, using skillful agitation to coax the crowd's capacity for violence and turn it into
696: 665: 50: 1085:
A Commons file used on this page or its Wikidata item has been nominated for speedy deletion
1040: 748: 718: 702: 8: 985: 724: 97: 21: 1075: 635: 626: 566: 616: 1130: 612: 944: 379: 1099:
You can see the reason for deletion at the file description page linked above. —
877:
directing the crowd's aggression and resentment at the agitator's chosen target.
1012: 981: 574: 570: 274: 577:. In contrast, to me "civil unrest" and "civil strife" are like precursors to 468: 447: 258: 237: 1143: 1119: 1071: 896:
disruptive acts. Once the crowd engages in such acts, it effectively becomes
701:
We didn't have any elections in October 2008 (either October 2007 or 2011) --
604: 595: 561:
Are "civil unrest" and "civil strife" really synonyms of "civil disorder"?
1125: 744: 373: 363: 342: 484: 578: 287: 478: 807:"hostile" is also not clarification enough. Must be more specific. 565:
These terms are somewhat elastic, but I think "civil disorder" is "
392: 268: 84: 63: 1059:
This article is extremely biased and also only deals with the US
1170:
Knowledge level-5 vital articles in Society and social sciences
573:, and usually in the course of a planned and locally conducted 976: 569:" (indeed a law-enforcement term), usually by a group of 173: 152: 1160:
Knowledge vital articles in Society and social sciences
869:
Exploiting a crowd's mood, radicals can manipulate and
855:
Grammar, Punctuation Issues and Issues with Neutrality
723:
You'r right, it was 2007. I fixed it and added a ref.
1175:
C-Class vital articles in Society and social sciences
921:
is, in any form, prejudicial to public law and order.
925:
This quote is extremely prejudiced in that it casts
474: 391:, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of 369: 286:, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of 264: 96:, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of 974:Earlier new discussion without section heading by 195:Knowledge:WikiProject Crime and Criminal Biography 1200:WikiProject Crime and Criminal Biography articles 198:Template:WikiProject Crime and Criminal Biography 1141: 826:Is not an act of civil unrest in and of itself. 749:Dr Chris Cocking of the University of Brighton 766:18 U.S. Code § 232.Definitions Civil Disorder 1185:High-importance Disaster management articles 1033:2008 Republican National Convention Protests 884:Additionally, another quote concerns me: 745:Dr John Drury of the University of Sussex 110:Knowledge:WikiProject Disaster management 881:What is a "vengeful?" is this correct? 607:, throwing the country into a period of 182:WikiProject Crime and Criminal Biography 113:Template:WikiProject Disaster management 1235:Low-importance Law enforcement articles 1020:2600:1700:ABB0:ED90:1813:B656:EF6F:CB61 19: 1195:High-importance Crime-related articles 1142: 518:Knowledge:WikiProject Law Enforcement 1240:WikiProject Law Enforcement articles 1180:C-Class Disaster management articles 963: 521:Template:WikiProject Law Enforcement 385:This article is within the scope of 280:This article is within the scope of 179:This article is within the scope of 90:This article is within the scope of 15: 1114:Social unrest is not civil disorder 888:When emotional contagion prevails, 49:It is of interest to the following 13: 1210:High-importance sociology articles 589:), "The following thirty years of 14: 1251: 1094:Mahsa Amini Protest In Saqqez.jpg 1230:C-Class Law enforcement articles 1220:Low-importance politics articles 1155:Knowledge level-5 vital articles 967: 477: 467: 446: 372: 362: 341: 267: 257: 236: 172: 151: 83: 62: 29: 20: 538:This article has been rated as 425:This article has been rated as 320:This article has been rated as 300:Knowledge:WikiProject Sociology 215:This article has been rated as 130:This article has been rated as 93:WikiProject Disaster management 1190:C-Class Crime-related articles 1165:C-Class level-5 vital articles 739:Over-reliance upon one source. 692:03:45, 26 September 2013 (UTC) 680:talk:Public Disturbance (band) 405:Knowledge:WikiProject Politics 303:Template:WikiProject Sociology 1: 1225:WikiProject Politics articles 1080:07:14, 15 December 2020 (UTC) 585:on the island in the 1990s" ( 408:Template:WikiProject Politics 399:and see a list of open tasks. 294:and see a list of open tasks. 189:and see a list of open tasks. 104:and see a list of open tasks. 1053:22:19, 24 October 2020 (UTC) 1028:20:48, 20 October 2020 (UTC) 1006:12:47, 18 October 2020 (UTC) 960:07:46, 19 October 2020 (UTC) 940:18:04, 18 October 2020 (UTC) 786:Ambiguous and biased wordage 192:Crime and Criminal Biography 159:Crime and Criminal Biography 116:Disaster management articles 7: 620:17:13, 17 August 2010 (UTC) 601:History of Northern Ireland 497:WikiProject Law Enforcement 490:This article is within the 10: 1256: 1205:C-Class sociology articles 761:18:21, 30 March 2019 (UTC) 431:project's importance scale 326:project's importance scale 221:project's importance scale 136:project's importance scale 1215:C-Class politics articles 1109:16:38, 6 March 2023 (UTC) 850:19:55, 23 July 2020 (UTC) 836:19:52, 23 July 2020 (UTC) 817:19:48, 23 July 2020 (UTC) 803:19:47, 23 July 2020 (UTC) 781:05:39, 23 July 2020 (UTC) 678:is under discussion, see 537: 462: 424: 357: 319: 252: 214: 167: 129: 78: 57: 1136:03:27, 7 July 2024 (UTC) 524:Law enforcement articles 902:emotional, ,potentially 860:Grammar and Punctuation 733:20:29, 5 May 2016 (UTC) 711:11:07, 9 May 2015 (UTC) 587:History of Bougainville 1150:C-Class vital articles 1010: 923: 913:Issues with Neutrality 906: 879: 201:Crime-related articles 993: 919: 886: 871:wikt:Special: Search/ 867: 283:WikiProject Sociology 36:level-5 vital article 593:came to be known as 388:WikiProject Politics 107:Disaster management 98:Disaster management 70:Disaster management 1118:Noting here, that 1101:Community Tech bot 1001:User:49.224.89.177 636:Public Disturbance 627:Public Disturbance 567:disorderly conduct 306:sociology articles 45:content assessment 1133: 1055: 1043:comment added by 1008: 992: 991: 952:Thefirstoneonwiki 558: 557: 554: 553: 550: 549: 441: 440: 437: 436: 411:politics articles 336: 335: 332: 331: 231: 230: 227: 226: 146: 145: 142: 141: 1247: 1134: 1128: 1038: 1004: 1003: 979: 971: 970: 964: 722: 677: 659: 613:Burundi genocide 544:importance scale 526: 525: 522: 519: 516: 487: 482: 481: 471: 464: 463: 458: 450: 443: 442: 413: 412: 409: 406: 403: 382: 377: 376: 366: 359: 358: 353: 345: 338: 337: 308: 307: 304: 301: 298: 277: 272: 271: 261: 254: 253: 248: 240: 233: 232: 203: 202: 199: 196: 193: 176: 169: 168: 163: 155: 148: 147: 118: 117: 114: 111: 108: 87: 80: 79: 74: 66: 59: 58: 42: 33: 32: 25: 24: 16: 1255: 1254: 1250: 1249: 1248: 1246: 1245: 1244: 1140: 1139: 1124: 1116: 1087: 1061: 1035: 1015: 998: 975: 968: 947: 922: 915: 905: 878: 862: 857: 842:Moralcompassion 828:Moralcompassion 824: 822:"demonstration" 809:Moralcompassion 795:Moralcompassion 788: 773:Moralcompassion 768: 741: 716: 699: 650: 634: 631: 571:civil activists 563: 523: 520: 517: 515:Law Enforcement 514: 513: 483: 476: 456: 454:Law Enforcement 410: 407: 404: 401: 400: 380:Politics portal 378: 371: 351: 322:High-importance 305: 302: 299: 296: 295: 273: 266: 247:High‑importance 246: 217:High-importance 200: 197: 194: 191: 190: 162:High‑importance 161: 132:High-importance 115: 112: 109: 106: 105: 73:High‑importance 72: 43:on Knowledge's 40: 30: 12: 11: 5: 1253: 1243: 1242: 1237: 1232: 1227: 1222: 1217: 1212: 1207: 1202: 1197: 1192: 1187: 1182: 1177: 1172: 1167: 1162: 1157: 1152: 1115: 1112: 1097: 1096: 1086: 1083: 1060: 1057: 1034: 1031: 1014: 1011: 997: 990: 989: 972: 946: 943: 920: 914: 911: 904:violent crowd. 887: 868: 861: 858: 856: 853: 823: 820: 787: 784: 767: 764: 740: 737: 736: 735: 725:WikiWisePowder 698: 695: 630: 623: 575:protest action 562: 559: 556: 555: 552: 551: 548: 547: 540:Low-importance 536: 530: 529: 527: 489: 488: 472: 460: 459: 457:Low‑importance 451: 439: 438: 435: 434: 427:Low-importance 423: 417: 416: 414: 397:the discussion 384: 383: 367: 355: 354: 352:Low‑importance 346: 334: 333: 330: 329: 318: 312: 311: 309: 292:the discussion 279: 278: 275:Society portal 262: 250: 249: 241: 229: 228: 225: 224: 213: 207: 206: 204: 187:the discussion 177: 165: 164: 156: 144: 143: 140: 139: 128: 122: 121: 119: 102:the discussion 88: 76: 75: 67: 55: 54: 48: 26: 9: 6: 4: 3: 2: 1252: 1241: 1238: 1236: 1233: 1231: 1228: 1226: 1223: 1221: 1218: 1216: 1213: 1211: 1208: 1206: 1203: 1201: 1198: 1196: 1193: 1191: 1188: 1186: 1183: 1181: 1178: 1176: 1173: 1171: 1168: 1166: 1163: 1161: 1158: 1156: 1153: 1151: 1148: 1147: 1145: 1138: 1137: 1132: 1127: 1121: 1120:social unrest 1111: 1110: 1106: 1102: 1095: 1092: 1091: 1090: 1082: 1081: 1077: 1073: 1068: 1064: 1056: 1054: 1050: 1046: 1045:91.119.18.147 1042: 1030: 1029: 1025: 1021: 1009: 1007: 1002: 987: 983: 978: 977:49.224.89.177 973: 966: 965: 962: 961: 957: 953: 942: 941: 937: 933: 928: 918: 910: 903: 899: 895: 891: 885: 882: 876: 872: 866: 852: 851: 847: 843: 838: 837: 833: 829: 819: 818: 814: 810: 805: 804: 800: 796: 791: 783: 782: 778: 774: 763: 762: 758: 754: 750: 746: 734: 730: 726: 720: 715: 714: 713: 712: 708: 704: 697:Last sentence 694: 693: 689: 685: 681: 675: 671: 667: 663: 658: 654: 649: 645: 641: 637: 633:The usage of 628: 622: 621: 618: 614: 610: 606: 602: 598: 597: 592: 588: 584: 580: 576: 572: 568: 545: 541: 535: 532: 531: 528: 511: 507: 503: 499: 498: 493: 486: 480: 475: 473: 470: 466: 465: 461: 455: 452: 449: 445: 444: 432: 428: 422: 419: 418: 415: 398: 394: 390: 389: 381: 375: 370: 368: 365: 361: 360: 356: 350: 347: 344: 340: 339: 327: 323: 317: 314: 313: 310: 293: 289: 285: 284: 276: 270: 265: 263: 260: 256: 255: 251: 245: 242: 239: 235: 234: 222: 218: 212: 209: 208: 205: 188: 184: 183: 178: 175: 171: 170: 166: 160: 157: 154: 150: 149: 137: 133: 127: 124: 123: 120: 103: 99: 95: 94: 89: 86: 82: 81: 77: 71: 68: 65: 61: 60: 56: 52: 46: 38: 37: 27: 23: 18: 17: 1117: 1098: 1088: 1069: 1065: 1062: 1039:— Preceding 1036: 1016: 994: 948: 926: 924: 916: 907: 901: 897: 893: 889: 883: 880: 874: 870: 863: 839: 825: 806: 792: 789: 769: 753:82.6.123.105 742: 719:Kantischüler 703:Kantischüler 700: 684:65.92.181.39 632: 609:civil strife 608: 605:assassinated 596:the Troubles 594: 591:civil strife 590: 583:civil unrest 582: 564: 539: 495: 426: 386: 321: 281: 216: 180: 131: 91: 51:WikiProjects 34: 875:a vengeful, 1144:Categories 890:raPersonal 485:Law portal 982:Melbguy05 579:civil war 500:. Please 297:Sociology 288:sociology 244:Sociology 39:is rated 1072:Vallee01 1041:unsigned 402:Politics 393:politics 349:Politics 945:Misinfo 932:Chordle 900:highly 653:protect 648:history 617:Lambiam 542:on the 494:of the 429:on the 324:on the 219:on the 134:on the 41:C-class 1126:Mardus 1013:Crowd? 657:delete 510:Assess 508:, and 506:Create 47:scale. 898:a – a 674:views 666:watch 662:links 492:scope 28:This 1131:talk 1105:talk 1076:talk 1049:talk 1024:talk 986:talk 956:talk 936:talk 894:uand 846:talk 832:talk 813:talk 799:talk 777:talk 757:talk 747:and 729:talk 707:talk 688:talk 670:logs 644:talk 640:edit 502:Join 316:High 211:High 126:High 980:.-- 927:all 682:-- 611:" ( 599:" ( 534:Low 421:Low 1146:: 1107:) 1078:) 1051:) 1026:) 999:— 958:) 938:) 848:) 834:) 815:) 801:) 779:) 759:) 731:) 709:) 690:) 672:| 668:| 664:| 660:| 655:| 651:| 646:| 642:| 504:, 1129:/ 1123:- 1103:( 1074:( 1047:( 1022:( 988:) 984:( 954:( 934:( 844:( 830:( 811:( 797:( 775:( 755:( 727:( 721:: 717:@ 705:( 686:( 676:) 638:( 629:" 625:" 546:. 512:. 433:. 328:. 223:. 138:. 53::

Index


level-5 vital article
content assessment
WikiProjects
WikiProject icon
Disaster management
WikiProject icon
WikiProject Disaster management
Disaster management
the discussion
High
project's importance scale
WikiProject icon
Crime and Criminal Biography
WikiProject icon
WikiProject Crime and Criminal Biography
the discussion
High
project's importance scale
WikiProject icon
Sociology
WikiProject icon
icon
Society portal
WikiProject Sociology
sociology
the discussion
High
project's importance scale
WikiProject icon

Text is available under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License. Additional terms may apply.

↑