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Parfaits were 'elite' in the sense of having acheived a form of spiritual perfection, but this does not mean that they regarded themselves as 'superior' to the Credentes. Far from it. They followed the Christian teachings of John's Last Supper and placed themselves at the foot of the table, as it were, regarding all humanity as equal. They never demanded the privileges we usually associate with elites.
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Cathars. Parfaits were not contemplatives only, as monks are, but also actives, following the instructions of the
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Merging sounds like a good idea. I believe that this article twice introduces a mistake. I don't believe that there was anything such as a "spritual prefecture", they were priests full stop. I doubt that the roots of perfecti and prefecture are the same. Merging or not, I propose to delete:
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Perfect to bestow the sacrament to those whose illness meant they could not ask for it." Indeed it seems in tension with the rest of the paragraph, if not outright
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Catharism.
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Perfecti article which isn't in this one. Would a redirect be appropriate? I'll add the detail about the demi-angelic status of the Perfecti to this one.
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