Talk:Cartography - Knowledge

1897:, many thanks four your reply. I'm not strictly an historian, but, as archaeologist, I obviously favour an historical perspective, which, for me, should never be discarded. Naturally I agree that it shouldn't be overwhelming. Regarding prehistoric topographic engravings, I would add (here and not in the Cartography wiki page, naturally…) that in the two main alpine rock art poles, which are Mt. Bego and Valcamonica, tenths and tenths of such engraved rocks show the so-called topographic compositions. As you say, the key is "so-called". But this case is far away from fiction-archaeology or press sensationalism or amateur archaeology: it is clear and self-evident that the engraved geometric and repeated patterns are related to territorial anthropic elements (pls browse if you have any time the suggested references; I can't overload this page with more sample, but I've a lot); it should be disputed if they are fields, houses or shelters for herds: only in this sense, it seems to me, the definition "disputable" may be applied. Their chronology is well testified by the superimposition among figures: these patterns are overlapped by full Copper Age (3000-2500 BC) dagger depictions, archaeologically dated, so they are older. Being so ancient, one thousand year older e.g. of the Yorgan Tepe tablet (2300 BC), which anyway should be cited in the historical section of this Wiki page, no alphanumeric symbols is present, and poor relation is to be applied to the actual landscape, so making it more difficult to interpret. As I wrote, anyway, the fact that such elements of a human-laboured landscape were depicted with a zenith view, fully justifies, IMHO, their inclusion in the history of cartography, as they already are, indeed, like in Delano Smith 1987, which I added to references. Best again 1491:. The anecdotes about explorers asking natives "in a loud voice" about a placename are not about making maps. The fact that places on the coast of Brazil are often named after saints also seems to have little to do with making maps. Those things are better suited for the toponymy page. I wanted to keep the story about Nome, Alaska, except correcting it to being a map reading error – was "Name?" on a survey chart for a cape with no name, which was misread as Nome and labeled as Cape Nome on later maps – I even have a reference for that! But alas, it too doesn't really belong on this page but perhaps over on toponymy or placename etymology. So I kept little or none of the original text – sorry to whoever wrote it! Instead I tried to write a bit about the issues of labeling places on maps that cartographers actually face. Although most of what I wrote is (or should be) common knowledge, I still added a reference, since I used it as a guide for writing this bit. Its an appendix in one of Rand NcNally's better atlases. The atlas is one of my favorites but seems to be out of print. I tried to add an ISBN number to the citation, but the atlas only has an "SBN" number, which didn't take. I will try to find its real ISBN and add it. I particularly like this atlas because it labels places in both English and in the local language (transcribed into the Latin alphabet). Like, on the map of North Africa, the Mediterranean Sea is also labeled Al Bahr al-Mutawassit, while the France map page has it "Mer Méditerranée". That's why there is an appendix section on this topic. ..anyway, just wanted to explain my wholesale deletion and rewriting of a section! 1969:

course on a map) and have found references to "deconstruction" (Derrida) but not to Gauss (most accomplished mathematician of XIXth century in case someone does not know, developed a "better" map projection to present world "fairly" in terms of shape and area). I am sure it is proper to point out cultural etc consequences of particular cartographic traditions, but this article should tell the reader HOW maps are made and what are their "hard" properties - FIRST. Have proper references to hard math here. As it is, I see this article as an example of a drift away from explaining things by science, towards perceiving the world in magical terms. Navigational software (programmed by somebody from a minuscule elite which knows the science of it) will draw the maps/chart courses, and everybody else will just know proper spells (ok, how to press proper buttons). But everybody can vigorously discuss the cultural consequences of the magic art of mapmaking, without putting any effort to really understand things. Very worrisome trend for me.

1877:. Thanks for the note and contribution. My hesitation here is due to how conservative the rest of the history description is. Every other description is of an artifact that is obviously a map, by anyone’s definition, clearly depicting geography in a way that was not so abstract or generalized that papers have to get written about it to make a case. That’s deliberate. A lot of material concerning ancient, highly abstract or disputed artifacts, has appeared in and disappeared from this article over time. I, for one, am loath to expand the scope. It wouldn’t bother me for there to be mention of these terrain depictions as a wikilink to an authoritative article on one. As it stands, I still think too much space is devoted to them in this article, for the reason I gave. I would like to hear other editor’s opinions. Again, thanks. 2195: 1333:

Furthermore, my original point is that it is NOT a self-evident axiom. In that case, it is either an uncited opinion or original research, neither of which are tolerable. Also, how can I supply a citation to a challenge of a word? If you are going to assert a point, then you have the burden of proof. If, however, I wrote in the article that "objective reality" was in dispute, then and only then would I have the burden of proof. Finally, my first modification was minimal to be polite. My second modification was complete removal because the sentence was unnecessary and out of place in addition to being unsupported.

2190: 1953:, thanks for the contributions. It would be good to have scholarly mention of the cartographic deconstructionism, but as it stands, several paragraphs of material specifically on the cartography of Africa is way out of proportion to the remainder of the article. That content probably belongs in a separate article that specifically addresses European cartography as a tool of empire. I would encourage you to start a separate article to that end. After a period for commentary I intend to pare down your additions to a sentence or two. Thanks. 200: 2077:], I will explain why these edits have been reverted, and invite the contributor to clarify the intent of the edits. The edits as provided were misplaced and disproportionate. They would need to be integrated into the article much more cleanly; as written, they’re an abrupt transition from a simple, factual accounting to a deconstructionist interpretation, and then abruptly reverting to a factual accounting afterward. The verbiage is also not encyclopaedic; it is more didactic and rhetorical. Meanwhile, the 233: 554: 533: 1517:

with "...who tranformed the maps that were to be used between the 15th century to the 17th century". What does that mean? Does it mean al-Idrisi's cartography influenced maps of those periods? If so, again, it needs a citation and probably a description of how, since it's not at all apparent. The citation supplied by the editor (a link to the al-Idrisi page) does not support the edit except in the vaguest sense of al-Idrisi having been important in cartography during the European Middle Ages.

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Africa - but it's messy. There's a part where it says that maps were a tool of colonialism in Africa because the colonialists used the maps to find their way around... Factually correct, but tenuous in a way I haven't seen since my days of frantically trying to bulk up word counts when I was a student! That part is also written as if Europeans were the only people making 'scientific' maps at that time, which doesn't seem right to me at all.

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peninsula. Many cartographers believed this to be an island for much of the 16th century and beyond. Also, note that Antartica is displayed in near-perfection in the bottom left corner. Yes, they did believe there was an antarctica, but nobody actually even SAW Antarctica until the 19th century, so how could any cartographer in the 16th century have such a good idea of what it looks like?

2452: 1693:"Cartography" is a fairly young word, coming into use in the late 1800s. Hence the term has no long history to talk about. The histories of cartography and surveying generally have been treated quite distinctly. Sorry; I can't provide references at the moment, but if you refer to cartographic texts spanning the 20th century, you will find only passing references to geodesy. 264: 1827:" Wiki page stating that "These artifacts are ambiguous and disputed, and the description is too detailed for the context". While I agree as concerns the too detailed description (I shortened it), I don't agree to the "ambiguous and disputed" condition of the items I'm treating, which are the so-called topographical prehistoric representations in the alpine rock art. 1835:

indeed as the most ancient European and near-East landscape representation. I may add that, being in a mountain environment, a zenith view of of the land below, like the bottom of the valley or the opposite slope, is quite natural, and may provoke its depiction as a rock engraving; this is a further element which favours a topographic interpretation.

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for objective reality. But the map itself would still fit with this description 'Spatial data is acquired from measurement and can be stored in a database, from which it can be extracted for a variety of purposes'. The variety of purpose in this case being to impress the king and to hide my ignorance.

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Hello fellow wikipedians, I am a student at a research university working on a wiki project. Going over the cartography article, it seems like there is some balance missing, mainly with Islamic and Sinic contributions to cartography. I am going to add a section called the Early Modern Period in order

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This edit is tendentious, controversial, hyperbolic, and poorly structured. It's impossible to claim something like "Moors dominated European knowledge" without expecting serious rebuttals. It's also not allowed without citations. "Famous" is an expletive here. It's not clear what the editor intended

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There is no controversy over the date of the map. There are dozens of world maps from the period with similar detail. North America had been undergoing European exploration for 75 years by that time with very competitive motivations. Coastlines are the first to get explored. The myth of the island of

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I don't think it is an axiom - if I drew a map of the world far enough back in history and wrote 'here be dragons' I would not be trying to provide objective reality, or if I tried to make my country look more important and imposing to intimidate rivals or impress the king, that would not be striving

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Guys (and/or Gals) - I have a feeling that this article gets too loaded on fuzzy things and too skimpy in hard precise science. I just had spent part of the evening trying to get from Knowledge some info for my kid on traditional long-range marine navigation techniques (like how to plot great circle

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symbology is a more accurate word with relation to cartography, which describes the way in which symbols are chosen and used to create effective maps. though certainly not exclusive to this area, it is a common word in cartographic vocabulary, and furthermore connotes logic, knowing, and thought. on

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I feel bad about marking this section as confusing without trying to fix it myself, but I'm not an experienced editor and I don't have access to the academic sources. I think parts of it are worth keeping - the impossibility of avoiding bias, the effect of the Mercator projection, the carving up of

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As being a zenith representation of a territory dating back to 4000-3500 BC (it's not a coincidence that it was the period of the agriculture revolution led by the use of the plough, but this is not a cartography matter), I don't understand why they shouldn't be cited in the history of cartography,

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I'm an archaeologist with more than 30 years of experience in the field, and I know what I'm writing about: these "artifacts" act as real archaeological finds, are well dated by the study of the sequence of the engraving phases, and widely recognised by most scholars since the beginning of the last

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It must be bewildering for world atlas publishers to clearly define and draw borders between countries, particulatly in the part of Africa along the Red Sea. May I cite the area that includes Ethiopia, Eritrea, Somalia, and Djibouti. This area has had so many border wars and civil wars that the map

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There is no way that the map "Mercator world map Nova et Aucta Orbis Terrae Descriptio ad Usum Navigatium Emendate", shown in the Europe section, is from 1569. North America was just being discovered, and this kind of detail would not be possible. Also, note that the Baja California is considered a

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There is a lot missing here. Much needs to be added on trends in the explosion of cartography in the 20th century. I've added a section on "general" vs. "thematic" maps, but a nice treatment of thematic cartography is needed. The cartographers section was limited to Germans - I've added some of the

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I agree, I guess I just mean that the content currently on this page shouldn't just be boiled down into a summary, but that the summary may need a bit more focus on non-western cartography, and mention computer cartography. It can be substantially reduced in length while simultaneously doing that.

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While the history part of the page is long in many ways, it is also thin in others. There should be a bit more emphasis on non-western cartography, and the past 100 years could probably be flushed out a bit. Middle Ages and Renaissance can probably be cut down by at least half. Some mention of the

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in the 1960s). In the last 50 years or so, analytical cartography has included topics such as map projections, generalization algorithms, digital terrain modelling and hillshading, automatic placement of placenames and labels, geometric transformations, cartometry, etc. Some may say that all these

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Vsmith - Of course, I don't think that all uncited sentences should be removed ... yet. The point is, we need to be striving to cite everything. The best articles on Knowledge do. I, personally, found the sentence in question to be the most egregious because it mentions fundamental axioms. I think

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You have given me. Well, isn't that magnanimous of you. What exactly does a week have to do with anything? The only reason I reverted your edit is because your comment was fallacious. You're wandering around demanding citations without bothering to supply any of your own, you're setting deadlines,

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Then you need a citation that shows that all cartographers must use "objective reality" as an axiom. Otherwise such a strong philosophical claim needs to be qualified with "Some cartographers believe ..." or something to that extent. This would also need a citation. However, I stick by my original

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Hi from Germany. I was of the opinion that in English language, the term Cartography comprises more than just "drawing maps" (sorry for this simplification), namely the whole process which leads to a map, thus encompassing geodesy or surveying as well. Is this so, or has it ever been? Where can I

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section already states much of the same material and interpretation. If you can give us other editors some notion of what you intend by these edits, we can help integrate them reasonably into the article if a good place can be found for them. The Deconstruction section needs a lot of work, for

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I eliminated the term "object reality" from the opening of the article because maps do not necessarily derive from objective reality. The statement, "Spatial data is acquired from measurement and can be stored in a database, from which it can be extracted for a variety of purposes," perfectly

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Editing the history of Cartography were good and varifiable they were coherent and varifiable source to the Cartography heading on internal links were provided to other wikipedia articles varifying his contributions. About the Moors intellectual dominance? if they weren't then who was in the

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Strebe - Sorry if that came off a bit arrogant, but the fact is I could have just removed it on the spot. I didn't wan to start an edit war. So I gave you over a week because I felt that was an appropriate amount of time to allow you to find whatever source you felt justified the sentence.

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In conclusion, I hope you won't delete again this little contribution, which I think is valuable. It will be interesting for me to write a paper regarding which kind of consideration is granted to such subject, i.e, the engraved iconographic heritage, by scholars of other disciplines.

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From before the Age of Exploration when the Moors dominated European knowledge, the famous Muhammad al-Idrisi (Arabic: أبو عبد الله محمد الإدريسي; b.1100-d.1165 or 1166) was the prime cartographer that transformed the maps that were to be used between the 15th century to the 17th

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Information about historically significant map-making in the greater Persian, Indian, and Chinese regions of influence is completely missing from this article. It would seem reasonable to add some of this material between the Greek and European sub-sections. Thoughts?

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describes the map-making process without appealing to objective reality. The measurements that cartographers use aren't necessarily "objective". Objective reality is a philosophical interpretation of the end product, not a premise necessary to derive that product.

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So apparently this article used to be just a list of map projections and then the present content was added. That's fine; it's good content; but what if you do want to know about map projections? Shouldn't there at least be a link to that info? – 11 Jul 2005

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these depictions were made by local peoples with no evident motive for use as maps. They are depictions. They are rock-art. In some abstract sense, they are maps, but they were not made for wayfinding or information about the geographic space. Because

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I am surprised that there is not a single sentence regarding Analytical (or mathematical) cartography which is considered as the application of mathematical theories in cartography ( the father of AC is by many considered to be Professor

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Your edit wrecked the section hierarchy, so I fixed that because legend is part of symbology, not the other way around. I rewrote the symbology section and the blurb you wrote for the subsection on legends. Maybe someone could make a

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publishers can't keep up with the changes. This situation has political, military, humanitarian, and religious connections. Other factors are poverty, famine, lack of education, crime, and sometimes mass slaughter of the indigent.

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and now you've completely removed the (very long) sentence that you originally only slightly modified. Well, good riddance, I say; that sentence was out of context anyway and the philosophical nuances were unrelated to the topic.

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century as a plan depiction of human landscapes (cultivated plots or farms or villages), although some-way symbolic (but all maps are symbols...). So it's not the best choice to define them as ambiguous or questioned.

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and have added that bit. Please note that there are no references given specifically for anything in the intro - although many of the refs listed likely apply. Is that a reason to simply delete the whole intro?

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assertion that the only axioms necessary for cartography are that the world is measurable and those measurements may be represented symbolically for the purposes of storage, retrieval, and interpretation.

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The National Library of Wales have released a high resolution version of the 1840's Newport tithe map to Commons. Perhaps it would be good to include the map/or part of the map in this article. See the

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It's not just magnetic storage anymore. Electronic data used to be stored only on magnetic media - like hard disks - but the range of storage devices now includes a lot of non-magnetic media.

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The most recent history section has obvious signs of plagiarism. Such as "in this chapter" and many other numerous signs. Also the page has lost some content such as Stabo and Geogrophika.

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The verbiage you removed doesn't claim that reality is objective. It only claims that cartographic theory sets objective reality as an axiom and develops from there. I reverted the edit.

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The statement was not that maps are objective or that they portray reality objectively; the statement was that the enterprise of mapping assumes there is an objective reality to map.

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have their own Knowledge pages. Meanwhile the Cartography article does does note map projections as a fundamental problem of cartography while providing a link to the main article.

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I've added a section, and I believe it deserves a separate article that lists and explains the various symbols used, like crossed swords for a battle field. See

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Analytical and mathematical cartography certainly are not left out on purpose. The article is not in very good shape. This being Knowledge, please improve it!

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For example the 1:24,000 scale topographic maps of the United States Geological Survey (USGS) are a standard as compared to the 1:50,000 scale Canadian maps.

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Having read the materials referenced, I am now opposed to retaining the several references to these topographic engravings. As Andrea Arcà leads out with in

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You are right, the section on map projections is quite modest and the expressions you mention are not even referred to . Anyway, there is a whole article on

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indeed it added more value to the article. References for the information on contributions on European transformation can be found in many books such as "

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The recent additions to the history section contain obvious clues to a possible cut -n- paste copyvio. I have asked the anon for reference/source info. -

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4. mention about maps being seen as top secret even up till today in many countries. Or yes you can have a map, but no coordinates allowed on the edges.

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Christian dark ages i thought that was the meaning of the dark ages when the rest of Europe was in the dark. Was there a need to re-edit this addition:

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Yes, you can by a nice, colorful world atlas at a book store but there's no guarantee that international border lines will be accurate henceforth.

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al-Idrisi's important contributions do need to be acknowledged in the text. I'm not qualified to do that, so I'm not going to try to fix the edit.

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Map design is the most important part of cartography. It is a set of methods that help cartographic designers to convey the info to the map user.

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the other hand, symbolization does not necessarily relate to cartography and could be misleading by referring to other cognitive processes. see

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I guess there should also be some information on mapping standards, labeling, etc. that should go along the the legend (symbols). --

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I agree. Feel free to pare the section back. Bring specific proposals here for discussion if that would help you feel comfortable.

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for a simpler version of the mercator map from the same year with the date also clearly visible. Hope this validates the year.

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to tie together the contributions Judeo-Christian, Islamic, and Sinic civilizations made to Cartography. I hope you enjoy it!

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It is unclear if he ever produced a map of the world according to his specifications, but if he did we have yet to find it.

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are necessary, there is an article devoted to that topic, unlike many or most of the topics that are addressed in the

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gives the datum as 1569. Antarctica is just a guess by the cartographers of that era (and not even a good one). See

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What we've got here, as of 28th October 2002, is a section on map projections. So here are a few things we need:

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B.C. stands for before christ, whereas B.C.E. is a secular twist on that which means before the common era.

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Can we edit this to either use AD/BC throughout or CE/BCE throughout? I don't know which would be best here

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OK, I thought as much, thank you both. FYI I can write the entry for Mathematical /Analytical Cartography.

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Go ahead and rephrase then. Better yet, change "but if he did" to "since" or "because" for simplicity. =]

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I have given you over a week to provide a direct citation, which you have not. I removed the sentence.

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I believe the Knowledge standard is BC/AD; AD is usually omitted (and is not included in year links).

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the new sentence is much more appropriate. However, since it is an axiom, we should try and cite it.

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article separately; I’m agnostic about the value of that, but I do think there should be a separate

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The topographic engravings of the alpine rock-art: fields, settlements and agricultural landscapes

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on Knowledge. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join

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on Knowledge. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join

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I am astounded that there isn't a photo or .png with this article. Mabye an early nautical map?

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I added a link in "See Also" to a new page I just created on the subject of pictorial maps.

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And yes, the page has lost some content about Stabo and Geogrophika because it was a BS.

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page, I don’t think any of it is too thin. A summary is all we are supposed to provide.

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about the (history/timeline) of (cartography/cartographers/maps/maps of explorers)?

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3. part of this article should be split out into a seperate place names article.

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The article linked to in the header sure could use more content. Any offers :)

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Is there a list of common map symbols anywhere on Knowledge? There's a list of

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1. Fishy sounding sentence: Extend of the current maps are always kind of...

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BCE as Before Christ Era and AD as Anno Domini are widely used and correct.

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article. In that sense, I feel like projections get their due. Indeed,

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that Map design be merged into this article or section. (Discuss)

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for the discovery of Baja California peninsula in 1539. See also

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History section painfully long while there is a separate page

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