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dating system to indicate Common Era and Before Common Era instead of Anno Domini (In the Year of Our Lord) and Before Christ. Given that the Romans themselves used neither system, but did in fact oppress and condemn
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East Rome survived for another 1000 years afterwards. There is a large lack of consistency. Constantine moved the capital in the 320s AD to
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