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showed the weights of the locomotives to be 64 long tons 8 cwt (144,300 lb or 65.4 t) and 64 long tons 0 cwt (143,400 lb or 65 t) respectively, far in excess of the 60 long tons 13 cwt (135,900 lb or 61.6 t) that had been
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Thomas
Grierson rose to become Chief Engineer of the DW&WR in 1894/95 taking combined responsibility for both the civil and mechanical sides of the operation, these roles being separate before his tenure and were to again be separated after he left in May 1897. Grierson was a
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This was different from more conventional thinking that tank engines are generally better for short trips, suburban and branch line work while tender engines are better suited to longer main line trips with their higher water capacity and possibly better running at
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and decisions and views he held were to be questioned. He is understood to have held the theory that
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Locomotives in 1908 due to a tendency to derail. Renumbered by
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Grierson. They were subsequently allocated to
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The Dublin & South
Eastern Railway : an illustrated history
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for £2,575 each in April 1896. Their design were based on the eight
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To satisfy motive powers requirements
Grierson ordered two
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1409:Sligo, Leitrim and Northern Counties Railway
590:On the merger of the railways in Ireland to
845:Clements, Jeremy; McMahon, Michael (2008).
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797:. Vol. six. W Heffer & Sons Ltd.
872:Shepherd, Ernie; Beesley, Gerry (1998) .
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822:(1st ed.). Hersham: Ian Allan.
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473:and the haulage of heavy goods from
416:Dublin, Wicklow and Wexford Railway
177:4 ft 9 in (1,450 mm)
13:
1728:Great Southern and Western Railway
849:. Newtownards: Colourpoint Books.
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818:Boocock, Colin (1 October 2009).
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1634:Dublin and South Eastern Railway
603:Dublin and South Eastern Railway
577:Grand Canal Street railway works
424:tank locomotives purchased from
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938:Belfast and County Down Railway
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514:Rhondda and Swansea Bay Railway
224:160 lbf/in (1.10 MPa)
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820:Locomotive Compendium Ireland
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762:Shepherd & Beesley (1998)
733:Clements & McMahon (2008)
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2388:Steam locomotives of Ireland
1578:Dublin and Kingstown Railway
1553:4, 8, 11, 13, 14, 15, 19, 20
930:Steam locomotives of Ireland
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563:Rebuild and service as 0-6-0
481:being major considerations.
197:33 ft (10,000 mm)
7:
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793:(1954). L. L. Asher (ed.).
531:. These locomotives, No. 4
16:Irish Rail steam locomotive
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592:Great Southern Railways
552:Inchicore Railway Works
434:Great Southern Railways
428:in 1897 and rebuilt as
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876:. Leicester: Midland.
847:Locomotives of the GSR
485:Design and Procurement
2283:Córas Iompair Éireann
2398:Scrapped locomotives
571:tender engines with
512:from 1895, with the
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418:(DW&WR) 4 and 5
270:Performance figures
2393:Kitson locomotives
2368:0-6-2T locomotives
2335:Industrial engines
712:, pp. 48, 49.
94:Grand Canal Street
2373:0-6-0 locomotives
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764:, pp. 86–87.
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2110:
2107:
2105:
2102:
2100:
2097:
2095:
2092:
2090:
2087:
2085:
2082:
2080:
2077:
2075:
2072:
2070:
2067:
2065:
2062:
2060:
2057:
2055:
2052:
2050:
2047:
2046:
2044:
2041:
2037:
2031:
2030:
2026:
2024:
2023:
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2016:
2012:
2010:
2009:
2005:
2003:
2000:
1998:
1995:
1993:
1990:
1988:
1985:
1983:
1980:
1978:
1975:
1973:
1970:
1968:
1965:
1963:
1960:
1958:
1955:
1953:
1950:
1948:
1945:
1943:
1940:
1938:
1937:249 & 351
1935:
1933:
1930:
1928:
1925:
1923:
1922:207 & 217
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1918:
1915:
1913:
1910:
1908:
1905:
1903:
1900:
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1890:
1888:
1885:
1883:
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1878:
1875:
1873:
1870:
1868:
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1863:
1862:110 & 112
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1858:
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1848:
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1820:
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2221:(1925–1944)
2042:(1847–1924)
1792:28 & 47
1730:(1845–1924)
1636:(1854–1925)
1580:(1834–1856)
1493:1, 2, 4A, 8
1481:(1849–1924)
1411:(1875–1957)
1217:(1876–1958)
1113:(1903–1949)
1004:(1860–1903)
940:(1846–1948)
658:in 1899 as
479:Palace East
396:Disposition
347:Power class
205:Loco weight
188:(not known)
24:DW&WR 4
2362:Categories
1349:S & S2
609:References
585:Shillelagh
445:Background
213:Water cap.
72:Build date
38:Power type
2326:7, 8 (4T)
1678:20, 34–35
1563:St Molaga
1468:Waterford
1461:Sir Henry
865:547074718
838:423592044
811:21457769M
803:606019549
679:Footnotes
537:and No. 5
471:Waterford
388:Withdrawn
313:DW&WR
306:Operators
230:Cylinders
90:Rebuilder
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1616:Princess
1609:Victoria
1595:Hibernia
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1558:Argadeen
892:60215087
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46:Designer
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1454:Pioneer
1440:Leitrim
1433:Glencar
784:Sources
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534:Lismore
506:Class A
456:tenders
440:History
383:Ireland
363:Numbers
252:⁄
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1568:Slaney
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67:3686/7
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2015:Jumbo
2008:Fairy
1718:69–70
1713:67–68
1708:59–64
1703:55–58
1698:52–54
1693:50–51
1688:42–44
1663:15–16
1528:9, 10
1518:7 (I)
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636:speed
614:Notes
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492:0-6-2
430:0-6-0
338:Class
155:Gauge
145:0-6-0
132:Whyte
41:Steam
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1602:Star
1513:5, 6
1503:3, 4
1488:1, 2
1419:Erne
1324:QGT2
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1289:NLQG
888:OCLC
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851:ISBN
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824:ISBN
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581:Bray
460:tank
391:1950
369:4, 5
318:DSER
174:dia.
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