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the article he would be in my Top 25 for sure, and that alone would likely be enough "points" to qualify, as I'm sure there would be a large duplication of certain articles (Oregon, Portland) which would clearly show at least a handful of almost unanimous choices for the Top cat. And that would be the same for other editors as well. After those few unanimous choices the diverse attentions of the group would show through and articles I may not consider important would come into play and vice versa. Currently I don't think we have much in the way of NRHP articles in the Top cat (Oregon Cap is one, but it's not there because its NRHP), yet we have several editors that do a lot of work on those types of articles. Plus it would be much like AFD or RFA where debate could go on for however long, and even include a candidate list with a platform for each article. I guess more than anything I'm looking more for finality, but also a more broad base of input than before (which goes towards finality since there would be a bit of a buy-in with the change). Honestly, I don't care if it is a vote like I propose, or something else, but I really would prefer we not debate every article someone thinks should or should not be Top/High/Mid/Low.

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articles you alone have brought up, and I know there have been others in the past. That's a lot of wasted energy for something with few "real world" impacts. Even if we spend time clarifying the criteria, there will still be debate as the criteria already exists and people still are debating on what should be where. To begin with is it important to Oregon, or what outsiders may view as Oregon, or somewhere in between. Take Hoover, the only thing really named for him in Oregon that I know of is a stretch of 99W between Newberg and Tigard. For an president that isn't much. But people just don't consider him as an Oregonian since he was forced to move here and pretty much left as soon as he could and didn't come back. Going by the article two schools in Oregon are named for him, compared to 8 in California, and no political offices in Oregon. So any criteria will still have the issue of what goes where. "Voting" if you will at least gives a certain level of certainty and would allow for a broad range of opinions if we get enough participants from the project. Not to mention put an end to the debate for at least a while, much like an AFD.

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after. I've done the same to other new articles by new editors, helping them format or giving suggestions on where sources may be found. But if they are not invested enough to spend the time to provide the info, then why should I or anyone else spend their time on the article? The template for me is part of a long process, template, prod, AFD. Sometimes I'll start with a note on the talk page, and then move on to the template. Now if the template causes some confusion for new editors, I actually view that as a bit of a good thing. I would bet more articles are deleted everyday than are kept, as most are speedied away as SPAM or autobios of 12 year olds. My point with this being the majority of new editors (and as pointed out above with the point about MUSIC requiring verififcation) and many established editors do not know what the notability guidelines are. You see this with all the articles speedied and in AFD debates where it almost always happens that people want to point out that these other articles exist (thus the counter of

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simply click on the "About Knowledge" link that is omnipresent to their left. Otherwise, I agree that the image placeholders are unneeded and should be removed, as images are optional. As to a disgrace, I'm sorry but I disagree since 1) we are all volunteers and are doing the best we can, and 2) Knowledge has some very, very, very (did I mention very) strict copyright policies that make it very, very, very difficult to add images of living people, and almost as difficult to add pictures of dead people, regardless of if they are a politician. Instead of adding the placeholder, you may want to spend your time contacting individual politicians. Though from my own experiences doing just that, good luck, they are not particularly receptive, partly do to the very, very, very complicated copyright rules of Knowledge (i.e. has to allow for commercial use unless fair use, and if its fair use, then they cannot be alive as it is presumed to be replaceable by free media).

5084:) doesn't make any sense to me. I see the tag as interim step that probably allows more articles to be saved and improved than if it didn't exist. Anyway, if you have problem with the whole system of article issues tags, I'd suggest you work to have them deleted. If you have a problem with the notability standards, you could go work on changing them. In the meantime, I'm going to work with the tags and standards as one of the tools available to me. I'm not sure what else to do. If I run across an article that has unclear notability and I don't have the time or inclination to fix it myself, should I simply tag it for speedy deletion instead? You'll note that when somebody decided to merge 4536:

know if it messes up. It's missed only one that I've seen -- I don't think I bothered to let him know, and don't remember which it was, I just reverted it. Anyway, bottom line...I think we have good justification for reverting, perhaps with reference to this discussion. If he succeeds in his goal of changing infobox templates to automatically include his tool (which I rather doubt) I think we'll have good standing, and good company (such as Wikiproject Footballers) in raising a pretty strenuous objection. So to my mind, for the time being, the issue's resolved. -

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don't have a template saying please add to every article, it is assumed. But my biggest issue with the template is more often than not leads to someone searching Google and adding the first picture they come across, which 99% of time is a copyvio. If it were that easy regular users would have already done that, but the (as mentioned before) very strict copyright policies prevent those easy fixes. At least that's been my experience. I, and I think everyone at this project, want the images, we just disagree on the process of encouraging the additions.

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have pointed to the same uncreated article and standardize those for when an article would eventually be created. It also identified some red links that should just be removed as unlikely to ever be an article as the subject was non-notable. The other purpose was to generate a list of higher priority red linked articles. At this point the list has been pared down of the non-notable, misspelling, misdirected red links and is now ready for the next phase. I will start to move the high priority links to a new page

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For the poll, I suggest we come up with a number, say 30, and each WPORE member lists the 30 articles they think should be in the Top importance cat, ranking them 1-30. We then tally up the votes using a weighted vote system where a person's #1 article choice would receive 30 points, #2 29 points, and so on. Then total it all up. I would suggest we limit the Top cat to 50 articles, WPBIO had 200 (now 203 for some odd reason) core articles out of 500,000 total articles. Any other suggestions, thoughts?

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While they can spur improvement in existing articles, they can also cause confusion for new users about what kind of subjects are appropriate for Knowledge. When it becomes clear on the talk page that a subject is notable -- whether or not that notability is defended or properly sourced in the article -- from that point forward, I think reference templates and targeted fact templates should be seen as more appropriate tools than broad notability templates threatening potential deletion.

707: 4958:, it's not because they are not notable, it is because the article does not assert that notability, using a variety of outside sources, and I want to give them a chance. (Truly not-notable junk I send for deletion ASAP.) So just removing the tag doesn't really take care of the problem. I'd really like to see those articles keep their tags until they are actually improved. Thanks! P.S. Don't be offended if I end up Afding some of those (I'll assume you would contest a 1806:

Creative Commons probably won't ever fly, at least anytime in foreseeable future. OHS is not a public institution--funding is tight, and mamma's gotta pay the bills somehow. Digitized primary sources are valuable assets. Like it or not, this view is pretty much standard among most archives/libraries/museums nowadays. Try not to take Manning's comments too personally; it's gonna take people a few years to truly recognize and appreciate the benefits of Web 2.0.

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an improvement appears to be our consensus, and is the recognized Knowledge decision-making process. Besides the biographical articles, I believe we're in agreement that every article should have at least one photo or diagram. I know I'm always thinking of ways to obtain and add them. Unfortunately, the effort to do that is several orders of magnitude greater than fixing a typo, so it's natural for illustrations to lag behind. I carry around the list of

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pages, but in reality Knowledge is getting better and better at dealing with that stuff quickly and effectively. The real "big deal" is that Knowledge is a place for genuine deliberation to take place, where disagreements are addressed on their individual merits and according to guidelines and policies, which distinguishes it from blogs and other online forums. I also mentioned the Merkley non-fiasco, which seemed to pique his interest. -

2809:, which I would normally just post on the Oregon-related deletion discussion page (don't know where that is? Ask me!), but it looks like it has been running for a while and may be closed soon, though with few !votes it might be relisted. I have no opinion on his notability, since it's a sports thing, but he's local, and the article definitely needs help if it doesn't get deleted. Check it out if you have a minute. 6027:, who I think none of us had never heard of; in a vote, he'd have lost out, but in reality, he's an important part of the history of the state. I don't think we're at a point where something as arbitrary as a vote would improve things -- I think it would actually give us a worse list. I think it's better if we each just look at it as something we can change, as long as we have a good reason for doing so. 5071:

personal opinion or gut feeling doesn't count. For example, you removed the tag from the ornithology professor, saying the article never should have been tagged because he had published papers in journals. Well, you probably know about "publish or perish"--all professors publish. However, there is already a standard in place for the notability of academics:

2553:*sigh*) Since many of you are excellent photographers, I'd like some opinions on what you consider a good basic point-and-shoot (though some control over settings would be nice) camera. Please reply on my talk page, and direct any inquiries about my good fortune, lack of moral character and/or spending range to e-mail. Thanks in advance! *Bicycling is fun 4872:. Just ignoring the problem means it just gets worse, as invariably in AFD discussions people say, well there are articles on this, that, and the other thing so lets keep this too. There is a place for those things on the internet, I like to call them blogs or MySpace or YouTube. But the consensus has been they do not belong on Knowledge unless they meet 4377:

the article lumpy and less polished, but all of Knowledge is a work in progress and ridiculously far off finished - and articles do go through a cycle of add stuff, polish, add a lump of stuff, re-polish, add a lump of stuff, re-polish. So putting up picture placeholders is part of that cycle. Eventually it will get a picture and be a better article.

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to the NRHP-listed church that was a filming location) continually get axed in the melee, which annoys my little copyeditor's heart. Since I don't think any of us really can have much effect on keeping the thing in check and/or don't care, I'd just as soon abandon it to the wolves. It has more closely related WikiProjects to keep an eye on it.

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folk.) Maybe we persuade them to include a little pitch for WP:ORE in their events, to give such people an opportunity to get involved with something more deeply, or stay engaged when OE has left town. We could always use more diverse input here too, and that kind of outreach is tough to do without a budget… -

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OK guys, here I go - Peter I just took the liberty of changing your "red link" a tiny bit, to "Paisley Caves (Oregon)" (plural), because that's what I deduced earlier from the articles. Next I'll start it out (and list some of the refs, try to figure out all the "stub" etc things I should put on it)

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Since I doubt we could ever come up with a perfect list, we could do something like what WPBIO did (come up with a "core" set of articles that none are added too) and then go sports poll like and vote on the top articles. Unlike WPBIO, I think we should not make it a permanent list, just close to it.

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I'm going to be bold and get it going by bumping up Columbia River, which I think is a pretty uncontroversial one (although AM did wonder how to distinguish it from other major rivers, but I think it stands apart because it cuts through the Cascades, was a major object of exploration in the early fur

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Thanks for pointing that out, Aboutmovies. I didn't catch that. And I do take heart from Katr & Pete who actually worked to improve the article, rather than just sitting around complaining (er... making a process point) like me. But in general, I'm advocating for caution with the notability tags.

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they are notable. That is, unless there are reliable sources, independent of the subject with substantial coverage (i.e. the notability guidelines) listed in the article, then it is subject to the tag and even deletion. It's not up to everyone else to prove it is not notable (its difficult to prove a

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I agree with the others that the biographical articles are, on balance, better off without placeholding portraits. If you look through our discussions (and archives), you'll see there has been very little disagreement within our project on any topic. That we think the portrait thingy isn't entirely

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I apologise for being an arse in my response above. What I mean is that even if you have a nice polished article, it's got to be open to new content, e.g. obvious things like missing pictures. Or red links in an article. Even a featured article is open to editing. And adding new stuff will often make

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Anyway, the article really isn't up to Knowledge standards, by a long shot. Lots of position statements cited only to his web site, for instance. Seems to me it would be a good idea to focus some attention on this article, and put our best foot forward for those turning to Knowledge for some of their

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Yeah, I haven't been to a WikiWendesday and it would be good to meet some people. It shouldn't be a problem for me to get half a day off sometime in the middle of March, my schedule is pretty flexible. As for the presentation itself, what are the OEP members looking to get out of the presentation?

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Anyway -- I think the Oregon Encyclopedia is a promising project, and it looks like they want to brainstorm with us. Looks like a great opportunity to share the benefit of some of our experience with this weird new technology, and establish some connections with the non-wiki world. Please take a look

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for several months to reach out to the OHS, PSU, and other such organizations. However, it takes two to tango, and if the OHS doesn't do something to mitigate their ignorant and disrespectful quotes to the press, I think promoting our successes, and contrasting our project with theirs, is a perfectly

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I wouldn't it mind being part of WP:ORE--it's got a stronger Oregon connection than a lot of things. However the edit warring re: pseudoscience, Ramtha, etc. means I refuse to have the thing on my watchlist any more, especially because my innocent, non-controversial edits (attempting to add a redlink

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I just looked at a half dozen films filmed in Oregon, and none had a WPOR tag, so if others do its not consistent. And being filmed here/set here seems to be about the only connection. So I'm for all films that have only that little of connection be axed. Now if the director/major actor/script writer

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merely reviving a list that Scotty put some thought into and argued for a while back. I like the idea of creating a sub-page for this; it needn't dominate our discussions, but I think it's worth having an ongoing record of stuff that's been proposed, and I do think it gives us all a good opportunity

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Now with the Williams example, and other less well known articles, as long as someone knows of the article it has the same chance. After all if nobody knows about it now then it would not be Top now. If I hadn't come across Williams to begin with, he would likely not be Top. Since I have come across

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Thanks for working on that, guys! Just to be clear, I'm as much concerned about perception of COI outside Knowledge as within it, so I will probably not edit either article at all in this election cycle. There's no truly magic solution to O-vanish -- you can retrieve articles from NewsBank through a

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I agree that the notability tag may get results -- in that it may spur someone to come along and clean up the article -- and that's a good thing. But in the meantime, we have an article whose main page is clouded by the appearance of non-notability. I think that's a bad thing. It tells general users

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example of subjectivity in the process. By requiring RS that are independent of the subject it moves the debate into a much more objective standard that is quantifiable. I may (and often do) come across a subject I have never heard of, but if there are RS at the bottom, then I can assume the item is

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while riding my bike along one of Oregon's fine state highways*--I would like to purchase a halfway decent digital camera, possibly a used one, as I am finally resigned to the fact that my beloved Pentax K-1000 has gone the way of the dodo. (And 1980s music has officially been declared "oldies" too.

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I'm meeting with Bill Lang Monday afternoon, and we'd like to set up a meeting with their whole editorial board, and anybody interested from the wiki side of things. I'll post a followup after that, but feel free to let me know if you want to participate in that. It'd probably be in Portland, but if

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I'm all for anything that can improve those lists. I took the time to download a database dump and I am writing a script to generate the redlink lists again. I can add the three-link minimum to the model. I also was going to take advantage of the show/hide javascript. Are there any other things I

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I think you all are being a tad bit too adversarial towards the OHS in all this. Most likely they just are relatively ignorant of Knowledge, and of WikiProject Oregon in particular. I'm sure it is not meant as any form of competition or anything like that, and that they'd love the help/exposure if

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The Oregon Historical Society announced today that it is going to write an online encyclopedia called "The Oregon Encyclopedia", in time for Oregon's sesquicentennial a year from today. I was initially very excited to read about what I'm sure it will be a great resource, but it's too bad they had to

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I think it could use a little judicious pruning. I think 3 or 4 might be too few, but that may just be me. (Yes, the COTW is the place for focused efforts; I don't think it's a problem for this list to be fairly long, as long as it's not too "stale.") Anyway, I'd say looking at an old version of the

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Yes, I hate all their campaigns now. There used to be a template that showed an article's subject was currently running for office, but I just looked at Barak Obama's article, thinking if it was anywhere, it would be there. Was the template deleted? Seems like it might come in handy to actually have

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Orygun: You did good. Removing the vandalism is top priority—as soon as you see it. If you're up for it, look at his contributions and talk page to see if there is a pattern of recent vandalism. If not, it's acceptable to do nothing more. But if it's blatant and intentional vandalism, you ought

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someone can just claim the thing is notable per some guideline without ever backing it up, and there really would be little one could do. Image if someone wanted to make up some 14th Century noble person, that subject would likely not turn up anything on Google even if they did exist. It comes down

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is policy. My first article I started did not give any citations, I just linked about three Knowledge articles that referred to the person and compiled the info from those pages. Soon there after someone came along and asked me to provide citations, and I did, and the article has lived happily ever

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To clarify, I disagree again that "outside references" are the defacto standard of an articles notability, especially on stubs and I don't recall simply removing the tag without explaining in the edit summary my reasoning. I hope you can see why it would be frustrating to review an article, take an

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some people with respect and name recognition in the community (professors, elected officials, community leaders, etc.) and maintaining a basic web site would make it easier for the "traditional" world of media, non-profits, etc. to figure out what we're up to, and why it's a good thing. (thoughts?)

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I attended the launch event, gave them a few bucks, talked to a few people. I've had more in-depth discussions with Sherry Manning (development director) and Bill Lang (professor/editor), the people quoted in the Oregonian and Register-Guard stories, and believe there's a really good opportunity to

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As some of you know, we had a bot go through all WPOR tagged articles and generate a list of red links from those articles. Part of the purpose was to find links that were simple misspellings, used the wrong term, or had disambiguation issues. It was also to help find multiple red links that should

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It was removed. FU images are not allowed in template space. This is mostly because there needs to be a fair use rational for every page the FU image is used on. You could create a rational for each page that transcludes the template, except that there can't be any fair use rational that's valid

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article tonight. I think would be really great if our article about them had more information than they have about themselves on their own website. I also think we need to campaign them to release their media under a Creative Commons license, although I think they are so far behind the times they

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In other words, you'd like it removed because of an annoyingly large number of edits and you don't see an Oregon-worthy connection. I agree with the first part: most popular media articles receive an incredible number of edits, mostly to add or maintain trivia. Unfortunately, that doesn't seem a

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There are way too many entries per task in this "to do" list. There should be no more than 3 or 4 per task, so as to focus efforts on key articles. Too many and there is no point of a To Do list at all - it becomes a catch-all dumping place for tons and tons of articles. Just my 2 cents, take it

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As some of us have noticed, the political campaigns are kicking into high gear! So if you come across a bio for a candidate, it would be appreciated if you could add |activepol = yes to their WPBIO talk page template, so that maybe the editors will read it and maybe not push too much POV. Unlikely,

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Hey, if you want to chat face-to-face with other wiki enthusiasts, with pingpong, beer, snacks, and the internet on hand, tonight's your night. As we are the first Wednesday of every month, we'll be at the AboutUs offices, in inner SE Portland, from 5:30 on (for what, two hours usually?) I suspect

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A while back (see most recent archive, above), EngineerScotty, Katr67, Aboutmovies, and I discussed some adjustments to what articles are listed as "top" or "high" importance in this project (based on the work of Theophilus75, who set up the ranking system). Lots of good ideas and discussion, zero

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I made a simple stub for now with a couple Oregonian refs. I'll continue to expand it and would welcome some help, I haven't been following the race much. Pete, if you want I'd appreciate it if you could work your magic on the Oregonian refs since they tend to disappear. That wouldn't violate your

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Jona: The criteria does not need to be changed, and the tag is appropriate for the state it was in. As the criteria for music outlines in its lead section: "In order to meet Knowledge's standards for verifiability and notability, the article in question must actually document that the criterion is

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in the lead section. This one presently does not; hence the tag. Maybe I should have read the article, and the WP:MUSIC guideline more closely when I tagged it, but I didn't. So I wasn't equipped to fix it then. I am now, and will gladly do so; I just want to defend the notion that the tag was the

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The idea that putting a big black hole on a page to attract content is hopeful, but I don't see how such a big hammer would help. For every wikieditor, there are hundreds or thousands of readers who will be bothered (to some extent) by its presence. Maybe it will convert them into an editor. Or

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at getting pictures, and showing the need for pictures. That is: picture placeholders lead fairly directly to improvements in Knowledge's content. There shouldn't be a current politician article in the world that doesn't have a photo on it (I alerted the wikimediauk-l list to the disgrace that not

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I say go for it, especially on the higher-rated articles, but they will certainly be added back unless you can get agreement from the editor who added them (who I see you've contacted). Maybe as you take off the templates you could make a list of those articles at the people subproject for anybody

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Thanks for the tip Awotter! I just had a fairly extensive talk with the guy. He said he'll let me know what comes of his story. The main point I tried to make -- which seemed to resonate with him, I think -- was that the media always tries to make a "big deal" about candidates tinkering with their

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Help wanted: I'm thinking of writing an article on the politics of Knowledge, and I'm interested in learning about how officeholders and campaigns deal with the site. Are you in a congressional office that keeps an eye on what your boss's Knowledge entry says? Have you worked for a presidential or

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to generate a table of all Top-level Oregon articles (plus a few others that I thought might be popular or interesting, off the top of my head.) Here are the results of that, showing how many times each one got visited in the month of February. (note that the table columns are sortable by clicking

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I met with Professor Bill Lang, the Oregon Encyclopedia's editor-in-chief, earlier this week. The project sounds exciting, and he was interested to learn more about Knowledge. He was particularly interested in the "Featured Article" status; he had not been aware there was any distinction among, or

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We should set up something so that they know which of our articles are researched thoroughly enough that they have info that they can use. That might be one way they can get info from us. It could just be a list of our FAs and GAs, or maybe all the articles that have a lot of refs, regardless of

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It sounds like we'll have incompatible licenses, which isn't that much of a barrier to working together. Just like we can summarize their info, they can summarize our info. It sounds like they may have higher quality standards than us, so they may only want to summarize our thoroughly referenced

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Looking further down the road, I think it might be worthwhile to establish a group (called something like "Oregon Wiki Advocacy Panel") that would make itself available to reporters, politicians, bureaucrats, educators, librarians etc. who are looking to learn more about wikis or Knowledge. Having

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Here's the difference, AM: they want $ 1 mllion to 2 million in donations. Great catch Esprqii, but this has me absolutely infuriated. Why are they making such ignorant and hostile remarks about a community that, I'm sure, would absolutely love to partner with them in a project like this, and that

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I guess having their site up for a few months wasn't working (what 20 entries) so they had to issue a press release. Though I fail to see much of a difference. They want volunteer writers, we have volunteer writers. They want reliable, we want reliable. They just have access to a crap load of good

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Didn't find anything in the Oregonian archives. I did find the following link to a Wired story from 2000, which appears to identify Ulmer as a geochacher, but not necessarily as the "inventor." (Unfortunately, the link seems to be dead.) I think probably merge-and-redirect is the way to go, with a

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Correction to my comments above: on a closer look, I agree that one editor in particular has been less than diligent in following WP:COI. I think AM and Esprqii have done a good job responding to that, so at the moment I'm not sure more action is necessary. But I just want to be clear that I'm not

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Much of this is likely my fault. I've had some contact with both campaigns -- Frohnmayer's too, for that matter. All are aware of WP:COI, and attempting to comply. (That doesn't mean every single intern or volunteer will comply to the letter.) Anyway, a notice like this is probably a good thing --

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Vandals tend to hit the "random aricle" button and vandalize whatever they find there. Checking a vandal's contribs is always a helpful thing to do if you have the time. For advanced vandal-fighting, I will check the "whois" link on the IP user page and often find out the vandals *are* schoolkids.

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Wouldn't have taken me half as long if I'd remembered that what I had to click on was "Save page"...I clicked on "Create this page" and...of course...it All Went Away, and I had to reconstruct it!! ALWAYS copy your stuff into the copy buffer when trying out new things..... Time to cook dinner! —

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and the like, it can be sent for speedy deletion, proposed deletion, articles for deletion, or, if it looks like it has potential, it can be tagged with the notability tag in the hope that someone can find sources that show notability. If the tag stays for what someone deems a too-long period of

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I'm looking at the articles and I guess the issue I have is tagging them in the first place. If an article is reviewed and it clearly doesn't meet notability or there is a concern then an Afd/prod and or notice to the article creator seems to me more appropriate. Otherwise it's just a pain in the

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I should have noted here: I continued this discussion on David's talk page, and he agreed to exclude "Oregon" from his mass-replacement. (I'm not too familiar with how the AWB tool works, but that's what he said.) He also said whatever method he's using is not foolproof, and I should just let him

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the ones about politicians. More so than many other corners of the wiki, I've noticed. Take a look around, and I'm sure you will be favorably impressed. If we were to say, go with my suggestion above about what to do about the missing images, or some other solution, rest assured it would be taken

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Before I dive in, I'd like to respond to Cacophony and Cirt's comments, above: I agree that we (mostly I) were a little over the top in the stridency of our response. I've read through all I had to say, and would probably handle it in a calmer way if I could do it over. Sorry about that. Still, I

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Agreed, both that CC would be a great thing to nudge them towards, and that it will be a tough sell. Also, I just heard back from their spokesperson (Sherry Manning.) It seems their budget is almost entirely going toward doing outreach to difficult-to-reach communities (immigrants, natives, rural

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are widespread throughout the world unlike tuyas. I think it's odd WikiProject Oregon should be left out because all the other country projects associated with tuyas (i.e. Canada, Iceland and Antarctica) are added. Lots more infomation is still needed for the tuya article, explaning its geology,

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In sum, I think the notability tag should be used for what it's designed to be used for and not employed for other purposes just because it's convenient. Yes, let's keep this this article on the list of WP:ORE articles with questionable notability; but putting a notability tag on the article for

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All of the "clean-up" templates are "make work" templates. Who do you think should clean them up? Personally, I think the original author is the person best suited for the task, since presumably they know the topic and where sources can be found to improve it. Now others can help out, but its no

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I think we all understand what your purpose is, we just disagree with the approach. There is already a process using the talk page for the same purpose, and adding non-content to articles (e.g. wikify, sources, or POV templates) tends to take away from the content. Yes, people always add, but we

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to revert you and come to a consensus to not include the fake images. Yes, Knowledge is always a work in progress, but under that analysis we might as well have a permanent template at the top of every article saying that it is a work in progress and please add anything you can, or readers could

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I'm pretty sure there isn't one. But not being all that tech-savvy and seeing how IRC could be an enormous waste of time in a life already wasted on the wiki, I've only logged into IRC a couple of times when the wiki was down to see if anybody knew what was going on. But I would participate in a

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I don't think the length of the list is a problem, but staleness is. I would hope a newcomer would speak up if s/he needed guidance about which to-do list items are priorities--yes, mentioning COTW might be a good idea, if the large banner at the top of the page isn't doing it? ;) Anyone want to

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review for a little while now, and hasn't gotten the attention it deserves. Northwesterner1 has done a great job getting it to GA status and beyond; it's an enjoyable and interesting read, and is a complex enough story that it would really be good to have a few more eyes on it in the FA review.

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Hmm. Not sure why you felt the need to repost my message here, as I didn't feel the need to have this discussion with you on the project page. Sorry, but yes, I'm questioning your actions. Yes, you put your reasoning in the edit summaries, but on many of them I disagree with it. I'm afraid your

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should answer most of your questions. Basically, there's no need to "report" most instances of vandalism; rather, just issue a warning on the user's "talk page." If the user is persistent, the number of warnings will add up, and only if there's a major problem is there a need to report it to an

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There are no real world implications, just the focus component. But I believe this is at least the third time something like this has come up, so people obviously are looking for a change to the status quo. We can debate each article individually, which looks like about 52 debates based on the

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I'm don't know enough to say how we can use their info, but it sounds like they'll be a great resource for us too. If they have high editorial standards, it will be easy for us to use them, so we should think about how we can help them with our active userbase and large number of articles. -

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Interesting discussion; I've got comments on two points. The Encyclopedia Project is not a part of OHS, just a partner; OEP gets office space and free use of OHS materials on OEP (so you can still donate that inheritance). Also, I'm sorry to say that idea of adding OHS primary sources to the

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I'm down, if it's really easy to use, and if somebody's willing to post a little "how-to" on the main page. Basically as long as it's something that's well-advertised, that doens't become something that's a sort of "secret back room" for those in the know. Not really familiar enough with IRC

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I live in Portland and would like to help our projects mesh if I can; personally or through the internet. If we're going to do anything, we should strike while the iron is hot and not pass this off to wikinews or whatever. If you've been talking to them in person, then the iron is red

992:"officially" volunteer to prune the to-do once a month or so? (Extra credit for checking out the page history and asking contributors if they still want their contributions to-do listed.) Maybe at the same time EncMstr updates the admin watchlist? Which reminds me...time for an update? 6246:.) (I've wondered off and on whether this should be tagged for WP:ORE; though it's not in Oregon, it's not terribly far, and has had a pretty big impact on the state. It has been a huge regional employer, has polluted the Columbia for many years with radioactive waste, and affected 4644:

Thank you. My computer crashed, just got a new one up and running. Another question -- my Annie Miner Peterson page has the red note that internal citations are needed. I put the internal citations in, but still cannot figure out how to get the red question about citations off.

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P.S. The print edition had a quiz of things the OE will answer; I knew all but two of them from reading Knowledge, and probably could have found the other 2 if I had looked, so phhhpptt! The quiz doesn't seem to be in the online version, so I'll see if I can transcribe it later...

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photos can be included here. The only think they have us on is newer historical photographs that we can't reproduce. I'm not at all afraid of them being anything other than a niche website. We're part of a 2 million+ article encyclopedia, they might get a few thousand articles.

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images that sometimes get dropped into articles? I don't like them, I think they often make perfectly good B-class articles look incomplete and unencyclopedic. There are lots of ways to encourage people to upload images without polluting article space. One was recently added to

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Cacophony, thanks for the offer, looks like so far it's you, me, and VanTucky. You gonna track us down at WikiWednesday? What are your schedule restrictions as far as doing the presentation? (Feel free to email me directly.) Also, thanks for the upgraded State Capitol photos!

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To quote the template: "If you are familiar with the subject matter, please expand or rewrite the article to establish its notability. The best way to address this concern is to reference published, third-party sources about the subject." Thus I tag articles that do not

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This was recently changed to match the colors of the state flag, which I reverted. I'm not real invested in what color the template is, but I think it should be discussed first, as I believe some of the other Oregon-related tls were made to coordinate with this one. See

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Sorry, my bad. I don't know much about wikinews, other than they summarize current events like we summarize longer term subjects. Can we write the "news" there, or does someone else have to write about it so that it's "notable" or whatever wikenews calls it? -

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Where all did you look for sources? I know The Oregonian's archives tend to have good info on locals, and Time magazine and the New York Times archives appear to be all online and free these days too. But if you looked at those places, then what is there fails

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Oh - and this would almost certainly be concerning politician articles. Any US politician article without a picture is in fact a disgrace to Knowledge - and if you don't want that shown, the best thing to do is to find a picture, not claim nothing is wrong -

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has an enormous amount of talent and dedication to offer? I'd like to contact the OHS and PSU people, and the Oregonian reporter, but I'm going to hold off till I cool down a little and, hopefully, to get a few ideas what to say. Below are my first thoughts:

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negative as few people can check every reliable source on the planet to be able to say there are no RS in the world and thus not notable), its up to those authors wanting a subject included to assert the notability. The exceptions would be for some of the

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One other thing -- we should think about what are the "real" consequences of this. They're not much, but they are something. One thing is that only articles of "top," "high," or "mid" importance (that are also of "B" class or above) get summarized on the

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I went looking to clean it up, but quickly encountered a lack of sources. While Ulmer's claim to be the inventor of geocaching appears to be unquestioned, there is little material written about him. Other than the fact that he proposed geocaching after

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There's also an interesting correlation with DYK's. The more interesting the hook, the more hits. And in general it reinforces the power of the main page as often minor articles top 1k hits in a month with 95% coming the one day they make the main page.

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for the film is also here, then I'm for keeping it. Basically something more than just set/shot here. Like One flew Over... was filmed here and was based of the book by an Oregonian. Free Willy filmed here and the star lived here too (BTW do we need a

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My attempt to add was complicated by an edit conflict with Pete, but he says it better than I would have. My only addition is that the effort, instead, is best spent on clarifying how to identify a "top importance", "high importance", etc. topic.

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for being non-notable, an orphan and unreferenced. It's hard to argue with that logic, but maybe someone in the project would be interested in seeing if there is anything salvageable there. I know they're quite active in lobbying the legislature.

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Woo hoo! Way to go Cirt and Aboutmovies, who I know did tons of work on this, and Zaui, who got the initial ball rolling; and of course everyone else for making such great content! We're famous! (Well, sorta kinda wikifamous anyway...) Congrats!!

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time, then they can either improve the article and remove the tag or send it to deletion. I really don't know what else to say, except that simply removing tags from articles that do not measure up to the Knowledge-wide standards for notability (

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Understandable. Think of it not as a "to do today" list, but of a "things to eventually get around to" list. If overwhelmed by those, maybe just focus on the Collaboration of the Week (COTW). You'll be notified of that if you sign up at

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Anyone not burnt out on this article, like I am, could you help reply to the family member with lots of new info on the talk page? Thanks! For those not familiar with the previous...unpleasantness...take two aspirin and read the archive.

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is a disgrace to Knowledge. I don't speak for the whole project, but what WP:ORE is trying to say is not that we WP:OWN the articles under our scope, but that we are very, very, very diligent about getting those articles up to standard,

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think this episode has exposed important opportunities, and I'm hoping to move forward with those, with a little less drama. In response to Bowhead, I think there's plenty of reason to believe that certain fundraising efforts would be

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to being able to prove a negative. I can easily prove their are no sources in article X. I really cannot prove that there exist absolutely no sources anywhere in the world, and thus show X is not notable. It would be like proving the

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I've had a web site, Romantic Oregon Coast Vacations, for nearing 2 years now that I would love to have added to the external links section. It's main focus is romance on the coat, including beach wedding and honeymoon information.

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jot down a short explanation of how you took care of the issue and your rationale for doing so? Since I tagged some of those myself, I think some of them are still iffy and the tags should stay until the problems are addressed.

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I undid the redirect and left a message on the discussion page that the article should have been put to a deletion discussion rather than being unilaterally redirected. A cursory glance already shows a {{prod}} was placed and

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Multnomah County Library account, and then paste that URL, which is what I sometimes do. But those only seem to work sometimes for other people, who aren't logged into Newsbank. I've never been able to detect a pattern. -

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gubernatorial candidate who had to fact check a Knowledge entry? If so, please contact me at nrorocks at yahoo.com. All comments and observations are welcome. I won't use any names without explicit permission. Thanks!

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Imo, I don't think any localized Wikiprojects should be on that page. They should just work on the individual tuyas that are in their areas and leave the main tuya page to the geology and volcano Wikiprojects. --

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blocks in that all must fit together nicely when that isn't always the case. It still doesn't change (in my opinion again) the fact that this seems to be a "make work" template" rather than one that solves an

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page. Not a lot of people look at that page right now, but hopefully that will change in the future; so, we should try to make sure that Oregon's most significant subjects, and best articles, are represented

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I wouldn't bother. Quality and longevity will win out, and google will rank wikipedia higher anyway. Heck, I invite the competition, if only because it gives us another site to go to for references.

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Oooowee! Have you ever seen my Aunt Betty when she gets going? She is going to be sooo ticked off about this. There goes my inheritance. And I was thinking of donating some of her fortune to OHS too...

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Zab, you wouldn't bother with what -- the article? or any response at all? I agree that "competing" is kind of silly, and would much rather cooperate with these folks. Actually, I've been working with

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In "The Oregon Encyclopedia," though, "entries can't just be about Aunt Betty," Manning said. "They have to be about things that really make Oregon Oregon -- significant people, significant events."

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Anybody want to work on the presentation? What are your scheduling constraints? Bill would prefer to have the meeting during business hours if possible. Maybe we can do some planning at next week's

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He would like us to make a presentation to some of the other editors, here in Portland, in mid-March. Assuming there is continued interest, the entire editorial board is meeting April 25 in Salem.

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I don't think so -- we all have the ability to adjust them anyway, and there was good judgment (mostly yours) that went into the original round. In the last discussion, you made a good case for

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Beyond that, I think it's fair to say these ratings only indicate where we might want to focus our collective energies -- I don't think there are other "real world" impacts of these judgments.

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are the big examples of what can, and does happen when we fail to require that sources be used. If we simply go with someone just saying they are notable, then I can start an article called

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at Powell's. If you like, I'd be happy to let people borrow it or use the free online version that supposedly comes with it. I'll also bring it along to the next Portland WikiWednesday.

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peer evaluation of, Knowledge articles. He also was interested in features like history and watchlist, and the ability to track changes; he wasn't aware how sophisticated that stuff is.

1705:." A Google search on "Oregon encyclopedia" still has the wiki article as #1 and probably will for a very long time to come. Any text that they add can be included and cited here, any 2007:

If you publish the list to Knowledge, split it into pages of no more than 300,000 bytes, and if possible in a sortable table. If not possible for a table, at least try for alpha order.

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I just disagree given the plethora of non-notable crap on Knowledge and the overwhelming number of articles that need improvement. I just happen to think notability is like obscenity,

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And, to Esprqii: Not so early for the primaries, actually; primaries are mid-may. So, in addition to this Senate race, we should also be keeping our eyes on other statewide primaries:

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There are even templates you can add to the talk page showing the IP is from a school. Those IPs may get blocked faster if there is a school IP notice posted. Thanks for helping out!

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of their activities, so there goes the non-notable part of the complaint. I'd say we should make an article -- put it on the To-Do list at the portal/project? Or a collab of week? -

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be considered for removal from WP:OR. If there's a connection to Oregon it's tenuous at best and the never ending obstruction of consensus by one editor in particular means it's

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we'll be hearing a report about last weekend's Startupalooza, and chatting a bit about the presentation some of us are planning for the yet-to-be-wikified editorial team of the

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would be best. I could do so without any admin intervention, but thought I would check here, first. The other possiblity is AfD, so that others can weigh in on the article.

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But it probably wouldn't have gotten that picture without a direct request for it. I put the placeholders on articles - particularly on every living bio I can - because they

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I emailed the author with this talk page address because I know some folks here have edited and or watched Oregon related political pages in the past and that there was some

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I think we should issue a press release and seek some news coverage, of the recent successes of the project, and more generally the value of Knowledge. Most notably, getting

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I wouldn't bother with the article, at least until they become notable. A response would be fine, but maybe make a project subpage and let us all draft it wikipedia style?

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Yeah, The Dozono article really needs to be created and the Adams article needs a lot of work. I'll start chipping away, but I don't have a lot of spare time these days.

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I agree that it would be very cool to contact the author of the O piece and let her know how wikipedia *really* works, and how in particular, our project is pretty awesome.

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I gather that we are going to show how Knowledge works, but how are they going to use that information? Maybe on Wednesday we could talk about how their project works?

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itself is covered under numerous WPs (military history, electronics, aviation, systems, and maritime trades), none of which really would include geocaching in its scope.

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It is a pain, but let's see if our nice reminders do anything...there's always asking our friendly shiny new admin to semi-protect the article if it gets really bad... --

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even if the coverage is not substantial. But even then, I need a source saying they meet the exception, and BTW being a published author does not meet any exceptions at

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list, maybe a year old? and removing stuff that hasn't been moved around since then might be a good way to start. Also, maybe this list should link to or mention COTW? -

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to reevaluate what is or isn't most important. Which I think should be a continual project, as we all get to know our state better. (It could just be a section of the

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tag there asking for a footnote. If the notability of the record label is in doubt, then the notability tag should be on the label's article. If you disagree with the

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states "If an article currently does not cite reliable secondary sources that are independent of the subject, that does not necessarily mean the topic is not notable."

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Knowledge content is licensed in such a way that anyone can republish it, for any purpose, without permission; truly a free resource. Oregon Encyclopedia is (c) PSU.

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that I see that "could/should be done" in Knowledge, I would be taking on yet one more full- and over-time career! and I'm way behind on the ones I already have. —

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because I believe the fair use only extends to the actual OUS article. I was reverted. Can someone better versed in the fair-use stuff take a look for me? Thanks!

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article. It isn't related to Oregon, but am not sure how/where to report vandalism problem. I reversed the chgs--now what next? Any advice would be appriciated.--

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Reading the template's talk page, I'm not sure using this is such a good idea, but it should either be on all the senate candidate's articles or none. Thoughts?

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This is slightly off-topic but the answer could benefit the project in more and better-quality images soon. Because of an unexpected windfall--finding loose

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Thanks for doing this. Hey, to save the rest of us time, can the folks who have checked out the articles on the list please both strike them out or add the

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and gradually build a list of redlinks. I have no idea how it would perform against WikiPedia because I haven't talked to the bot people for approval yet.

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The stash, squirreled away by Dave Ulmer, an Oregon computer consultant and GPS enthusiast, was intended to test the accuracy of the global positioning ...

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for an article, if you haven't substantially contributed to it! Or just help respond to concerns as they come up. Also, I've dabbled with the little-used

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I wrote a crawler and tested it on my own MediaWiki install. It gathers the correct data and seems to function ok. It's designed to run live using the

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If you don't want to (or can't) do all of it, make a stub article. Put the references in it, or in the talk page so someone can take it from there. —

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for the template page itself. Because of this, FU images are not allowed in templates. FU images are only allowed in article space and image space. -

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of subject matter. I take it you didn't see the movie? It features many widely recognized locations around Portland and Hillsboro (and San Francisco)

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Holy cow that is a lot of data. Is there any way that you can put together a list of the top 100 redlinks? Great job putting together that report.

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I'm not saying this is necessarily daunting for me, just that it may put off newcomers from collaborating or focusing efforts on a few key articles.

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was slated for speedy deletion, which I contested pending discussion here. I don't know how the transclusion thing works. Do we still need this tl?

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tush to have to come along later and review and or justify why an article should or shouldn't be tagged. Also, respectfully, I think that there is

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status. Just up the river in Washington, but a site that's played a major role in the evolution of the region since WWII. Big congrats to newcomer

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of it playing out, where at first blush the article would likely get deleted, but by tagging the article the interested editor fixed the problem.

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If there is already an accepted system in place, there is little reason to modify it. Consistency is king. I will create the category myself.

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I'm new to this. I entered two Oregon related articles to Knowledge day before yesterday. How do they get into the Oregon Project? They are

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before it goes out? Anyone got a shorter/better title for it? And, is anybody willing to have their name listed as a contact along with me? -

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changes. I'm posting an abbreviated list of the suggestions below, and would suggest that anyone who wants to make a change should probably

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disabled SA, and the particulars of the placement of the first geocache virtually none of the claims in the article can be substantiated by

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to warn him (which doubles as a count of notches toward blocking him). Researching history and warning are much easier to perform if your

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one's job. As to other non-notable stuff, that's the point of tagging these things (and later deleting) so people may one day understand

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Yeah I could help put something together. WikiWednesday would be a good time to put an outline together and maybe divide some work up.

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When I read about it I my first thought was "Awesome, another great reliable source, hopefully comparable (or better than) Washington's

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which you can enable with a simple edit to your account. If the user was recently given a final warning, by all means, report them to

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by a particular candidates staff (? my memory is hazy on who or what the circumstances were) but I thought I'd pass this on as an fyi.

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Great find Mom, thanks! Amazing what the local news doesn't pick up on sometimes. I agree with EncMstr -- just make a little page at

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Hence the use of the template, to allow the editor to demonstrate the notability without moving to deletion, which is a last resort.

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Our upload system is complicated. The image includes a specialised version of our upload system that is designed to simplify things.

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Um, no wikiproject has the power to declare itself closed to new content, nor closed to particular classes of users, nor to claim

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with a brief overview like you put here, and links like you put here, and watch what happens...you may be pleasantly surprised! -

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By following links in today's Google News headline, "Scientists Find Oldest Human Remains Uncovered in the Americas", I came to

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I have an Aunt Betty, but not only is she not notable -- she currently lives in California. (But she's a very nice person.) --

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since I discovered too late it was requested we don't edit the original list. Feel free to move, link or rename as necessary.

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The article created would need to be one that would have a WPOR tag once created (as in a river in Idaho would not be listed)

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maybe it will make the impression that the article is unusable. I strongly suspect the latter conclusion is more likely. —

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we need to find a way to include people from elsewhere, we can...maybe tele-conferencing people in, or using a chat service.

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If local settings appearing in a movie were a criteria for inclusion on Project pages then I'd hate to see WP:Vancouver B.C.

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cut down Knowledge in their announcement, and use all the old wikipedia cliches in the process. From the article in the O (

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as much as me, but that's a pretty high number, especially for a candidate who isn't currently holding office. (Opponent

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Oops, EncMstr, I didn't see your post. I just reverted to the speedy-tagged version, seeing as there are no objections.

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condoning the kind of disregard for COI that seems to have taken place -- I just misread the article histories before. -

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became one of only 99 Featured Portals, getting comments along the way that it was better than other Featured Portals.

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channel on irc.freenode.net ? If not, someone should set one up, something like #wporegon or something like that.

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We'd love to recognize the great work of WikiProject Oregon contributors at the portal, if/when you get articles to

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strong enough reason to remove it—the opposite in fact: such articles need strong protection from trivia creep and

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Hello, does anyone own -- or know a good online version of -- Lewis and Clark's journals? A question has come up at

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with three hit songs in Sweden, including two albums put out from Island Records. That meets the criteria (sans

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Katr requested some coverage of us at the Knowledge Signpost. Hopefully we'll get a little local love, as well!

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which does not mean the subject is not notable, but only that the article fails to demonstrate that notability

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trade days, is a shipping channel that connects us to 2 states and the world, and has 4 major Oregon dams.) -

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Out of fewer than 2,000 Featured Articles on WP, six are on Oregon-related topics, with many more on the way.

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exceptions, such as if the person was a state legislator and there is a source showing that, then they meet

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for how each medium is separate and broken down by state and further by city if needed. Why not just create

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I didn't realize that a template which was temporarily not being used could be speedied. But it looks like

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We don't write press releases, but still get widely viewed. (On the day it was featured on WP's front page,

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I'd fool around with it, but I'm on his staff, so it probably wouldn't be best (No, Henry Kraemer isn't my

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that is also linked from each of the 8 raw output pages. The criteria I was planning on was the following:

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so the area radio stations can be included in the categorization. The cat name can be discussed as well.

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to keep us updated (unless that article is already selected in the particular subsection of the portal).

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should have the notability tag removed and add {{cn}} instead. And that is where the problem is, and why

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Also, I'm looking to present a list in a presentation that VanTucky, Cacophony, and I are doing for the

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can be established on its own merits even as a stub. I'm concerned that in your view policies are like

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is not under the scope of any WikiProject currently; otherwise I would go bother them. The article on

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Lots more online--lots of archaelogical field schools do work there. I will resist googling for more.

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Same race, though...that's what "sparked" me to think of this. (It was Esprqii who tipped me off...) -

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administrator and seek a block or other remedy. (The best way to report a first-time vandal is with {{

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Is there a procedure for reporting vandalism? One of those numbered users inserted some garbage into

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WP:ORE IRC if it gets set up. I know they're really good for coordinating acute issues in real time.

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was recently promoted to GA, and with a few additions will hopefully be ready for FA soon. Cirt got

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This message was left on my talk page shortly after I posted here when I initially worked the list:

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Excellent idea re: Wikinews! Peregrine, I'll be sure to let you know if/when we set up a meeting. -

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http://www.oregonlive.com/living/oregonian/index.ssf?/base/living/1202865909212180.xml&coll=7

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My read is that the consensus is to remove it. So I did. An update to /admin is forthcoming. —

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I hope that makes why I'm doing this a bit clearer, and sorry again for being snappy about it -

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There's a list of specific types of collaboration and requests of Oregon Encyclopedia, also on

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If we could get them to release media under Creative Commons, that would be very very useful.

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We should share our tips and tricks for researching Oregon stuff! Please add your own ideas. -

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have gained benefit from using it, and it's not used as a "backroom" or anything over there.

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Well it's not quite WP:OR (or…is it?), but I thought you all might be interested to know that

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type of volcano found in very few places around the world. Other volcanoes in Oregon such as

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I would encourage members of this project to have a look at these articles, and see whether

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status, joining just a handful of other Oregon-related articles at that status. Good work! -

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editorial team next week. Again, I'd like to make sure we're putting our best foot forward.

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was viewed close to 3,000 times in February. Don't know if you guys have been playing with

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That should limit it to I'm guessing 100 or so articles. Thoughts? Other criteria? Thanks.

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is almost certainly abandoned. I'll delete it in a few days if there are no objections. —

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I'll write up something, after y'all decide on how/when/what to issue the Press Release.

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who happen upon this article that Knowledge is not a place for articles about a guy like

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107 SE Washington St., Suite 520 (just go to the 5th floor and follow the colorful tape)

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pictures. Otherwise I'm not impressed. Looks like Oregon History Project II, wikistyle.

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Sigh. Katr, if we have to delete that article about your Aunt Betty one more time, I'm

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is an essay, you have any policy or guidelines you might like to point too? Otherwise

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action and then have it questioned when there is a process for that already in place.

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Is there a list of them somewhere, or a category, so I can watchlist the articles? —

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articles. Or use them to find the references that they want for their own articles.

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For all WikiProject members in the Portland-metro area, I just picked up a copy of

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there are currently 33 articles in the scope of this project which are tagged with

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I wonder what the attraction to the Nike article is? Seems counterintuitive.... —

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Two notable successes in evaluating Oregon history: (More examples would be good.)

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News headline today (3 April 2008) refers to Paisley Cave in Cascade Range, OR -?

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wikinews:Wikinews:Water cooler/miscellaneous#Local publicity for wikis, Knowledge

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If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the

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is policy (OK actually to everyone its policy) and for a very good reason: see

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commons:Category:Portland, Oregon 2008 "Anonymous" anti-Scientology protests

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to get this information included! :) If I were to devote myself fully to

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article provides a discography that includes wikilinks to the record label

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should consider? I'll be working on it over the next 8 hours off and on.

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Does Aunt Betty have son who is a famous old person researcher by chance?

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Might be something you might want to consider working on in the venue of

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just do it. We can always discuss any changes that prove cotroversial. -

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of a burden on why someone thinks an article subject isn't notable than

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up to FA, and Aboutmovies continues his impressive streak of GA's with

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An excellent idea -- I say go for it! Wasn't aware that page existed. -

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Glad to see you back! Good job on the inline citations. I removed the

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I want to report back on some progress following the announcement of

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is up to snuff -- as well as any other mayoral candidates that pass

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Yes, especially since the article has been in the press recently:

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something on the front page too, or is that just more advertising?

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is a notable subject for inclusion at Knowledge. If we don't have

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Hi Millicoma! I added the template on both pages, you can see how

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the triangles.) He posted the Linux bash script he wrote do it on

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I just ran across this Afd for basketball player Grayson Boucher:

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A few specific users, cause the papers love that: something about

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implementation these days to know if it's that straightforward. -

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as well, explaining some general benefits of Knowledge and wikis.

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If the article is a living bio without a picture, it is in fact

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with open licensing…but I'll leave that debate for another day!

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It doesn't look like it is used anywhere, and it is subsumed by

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United States House of Representatives elections in Oregon, 2008

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Will the next one be May 7? I'll take the day off and come up!

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notable and not just made up, thus avoiding issues such as the

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which is copyrighted, and he is alive, thus I believe it fails

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I recently encountered the above article about the inventor of

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was good enough to lend his tech skills to an idea I had: use

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Wow, that was quick. Nice job whipping it into shape, Cirt. —

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Nevermind, I guess it was referring to a different article.

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OOPS - too hasty - I'll go with Katr's suggestion of simply

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http://www.uoregon.edu/~ftrock/paisley_caves_description.php

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handy dandy list of mostly geographic and architecture stuff

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COI (feel free to make other content suggestions on talk).

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having every UK politician article have a picture is). Etc.

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May 3, 2000: Geocaching Gets Geeks Into the Great Outdoors

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and specifically the need for RS is to try and avoid your

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If you have any questions, please leave a message on the

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The subject would have to be easily identified as notable

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Knowledge:WikiProject Oregon/OregonEncyclopedia response

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Using only the first of the 8 output data pages so far,

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on the main page. There's a draft press release on the

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Just to make sure I make clear where I'm coming from,

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It's pretty straightforward. A bunch of the folks at

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going to stop showing up on our recent change list(s).

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Here is a perfect example of what my main concern is

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I reverted the use of the OUS logo on this template:

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This article would be a great source to start with:

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Yeah, great find Pete's Mom! :) I bet it is part of

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that Knowledge is not just a huge collection of crap

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I don't care but I you will need to run this one by

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at the steps we've taken, and join in the planning!

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Knowledge is far more navigatable due to wikilinks.

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Category:Stations broadcasting from Medford, Oregon

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FYI, generally, when I tag articles with 2238:Zab and EncMstr have been working on a letter 1296:I think she is 128 years old. Actually, isn't 5521:not a tourism guide or vacation planning site 5240:correct one at the time when it was placed. - 3855:List of tallest buildings in Portland, Oregon 2141:Template:Announcements/Current collaborations 350:United States Senate election in Oregon, 2008 4258:who wants to try to track down some images. 1111:--only if you also break it down by county. 770:Well, I first expressed interest in getting 4170:Knowledge:WikiProject Oregon/Reference desk 2117:status, or get a new or stub article up at 1732:wouldn't even understand what that means. 6636:if someone else cleaned the article up. — 4708:can be added, whether the articles can be 2863:Novick aide apologizes for Knowledge edits 2333:, about the advent of this new resource. 1937:Thanks for the reminder. It's history. — 1435:, as incorrectly reported by many sources. 1240:And the Oregon Encyclopedia will be here: 428:are competing for the Dem. nomination for 6306:Typically late WikiWednesday announcement 5474:The URL is www.romantic-oregon-coast.com 5281:true." Thus unless it is documented (see 4116:was updated with a fact from the article 4051:hmm, thanx, I'll help keep an eye o ut... 6494:(I don't think it needs a qualifier) in 5423:are unique to Oregon because they are a 5338:We'll have to agree to disagree. To me, 1788:they knew about it/were more informed. 1083:Keiko was a Mexican immigrant I believe. 1057:Sounds fine to me. Then again, I may be 855:I started adding talk page templates to 594:and should be redirected to geocaching. 416:are running for the Dem. nomination for 262:Nevermind--found it on Smith's article. 6546:- and people can take it from there. 5289:) then it fails any of the criteria at 4616:Knowledge:WikiProject Oregon/Assessment 2721:Category:Television stations in Medford 1485:recent articles on steamboats, such as 486:seems to be complete and convenient. — 14: 6460:East Lake Abert Archeological District 5944:is top importance, perhaps these too: 5732:, and if it doesn't change your view, 5220:Knowledge at large is not a good idea. 44:Do not edit the contents of this page. 6275:will be up for GA very soon, as will 1440:We actively hunt down articles about 970:) seem like a great place to start. 1007:Remove article from Project proposal 629: 25: 5764:Oregon Department of Transportation 5346:or more specifically items such as 5150:Continuing a conversation begun at 3323:Oregon Department of Transportation 2200:So anyway, here's a little update: 23: 6225:Hanford Site, and other GA/FA news 5751:maybe remove from "top" importance 5463:Oregon coast link addition request 3799:FYI, I have nominated the article 2762:Category:Radio stations in Medford 2323:I didn't mean to "pass it off" to 2235:. Again, please add your thoughts! 1888:Knowledge:WikiProject Oregon/to do 1419:Determining that the party led by 887:Knowledge:WikiProject Oregon/to do 24: 6656: 6632:. However I'm his webmaster, so 6287:system, by doing a review of the 6073:Is that a reasonable summation? - 5624:would be a good starting point. - 4306:of any given series of articles. 4189:Great idea! Feel free to mine my 2669:no shortage of newspaper coverage 2649:United States Student Association 2584:article: it was just promoted to 1830:Template:Oregon University System 1523:Any other ideas? Maybe we should 1242:http://www.oregonencyclopedia.org 18:Knowledge talk:WikiProject Oregon 6259:1984 Rajneeshee bioterror attack 6152:What about something like this: 5962:Portland Public Service Building 4718:Knowledge:WikiProject Notability 4095: 3801:1984 Rajneeshee bioterror attack 3793:1984 Rajneeshee bioterror attack 3313:Oregon Constitutional Convention 2758:Category:American media by state 2268:Comment re idea of Press Release 2216:to Featured status, and getting 1487:Steamboats of the Columbia River 705: 141:|Page name}}. Hope this helps! - 29: 5622:Oregonian profile of Sho Dozono 4308:Knowledge is a work in progress 4233:What do people think about the 4008:Recent COI on political page(s) 3743:Oregon Ballot Measure 36 (2004) 3733:Oregon Ballot Measure 37 (2004) 3723:Oregon Ballot Measure 11 (1994) 2544:WPORE Consumer Reports division 1493:"fundraising" (er, front) page. 499:seems to be easy on the eyes. — 232:but its all we've got. Thanks. 5966:Portland International Airport 5914:, or of summary articles like 4439:in case an opportunity arises. 3826:Wow, productive group lately! 3633:List of Oregon ballot measures 2731:Television stations in Medford 2625:Yes, congratulations indeed! 2580:, who wrote nearly all of the 1824:Fair use of image on template? 1452:…more examples would be good.) 1347:I found Aunt Betty's autograph 1237:getting EncMstr to block you. 13: 1: 6265:, and we've all had numerous 6250:in parts of Oregon as well.) 5837:maybe add to "top" importance 5780:Oregon State Beavers football 5730:review the earlier discussion 5614:Sam Adams (Oregon politician) 5467:Good day, fellow Oregonians! 5392:did not create the universe. 5168:relevant notability guideline 5146:Notability Tag vs. Other Tags 4160:. 17:16, 20 March 2008 (UTC) 3713:Oregon Death with Dignity Act 3373:Oregon State Beavers football 2828:Hey all, I just noticed that 2567:00:51, 25 February 2008 (UTC) 2465:22:37, 29 February 2008 (UTC) 2435:20:15, 24 February 2008 (UTC) 2404:22:02, 23 February 2008 (UTC) 2390:I posted a plea for input at 2386:21:21, 23 February 2008 (UTC) 2372:07:52, 23 February 2008 (UTC) 2358:07:48, 23 February 2008 (UTC) 2343:07:43, 23 February 2008 (UTC) 2319:07:40, 23 February 2008 (UTC) 2289:05:45, 23 February 2008 (UTC) 2263:00:10, 23 February 2008 (UTC) 2171:00:10, 23 February 2008 (UTC) 2156:16:59, 21 February 2008 (UTC) 2135:21:04, 20 February 2008 (UTC) 2098:07:22, 19 February 2008 (UTC) 2049:01:31, 21 February 2008 (UTC) 2035:13:06, 18 February 2008 (UTC) 2017:04:58, 18 February 2008 (UTC) 2003:04:10, 18 February 2008 (UTC) 1987:03:47, 18 February 2008 (UTC) 1942:06:56, 25 February 2008 (UTC) 1933:06:45, 25 February 2008 (UTC) 1919:16:54, 16 February 2008 (UTC) 1900:16:44, 16 February 2008 (UTC) 1881:16:42, 16 February 2008 (UTC) 1858:18:41, 14 February 2008 (UTC) 1842:18:27, 14 February 2008 (UTC) 1816:06:08, 22 February 2008 (UTC) 1798:21:06, 20 February 2008 (UTC) 1771:22:20, 16 February 2008 (UTC) 1756:16:56, 16 February 2008 (UTC) 1742:07:40, 16 February 2008 (UTC) 1720:00:42, 15 February 2008 (UTC) 1673:21:19, 14 February 2008 (UTC) 1659:20:56, 14 February 2008 (UTC) 1640:20:45, 14 February 2008 (UTC) 1625:20:28, 14 February 2008 (UTC) 1607:18:34, 14 February 2008 (UTC) 1560:18:21, 14 February 2008 (UTC) 1546:17:56, 14 February 2008 (UTC) 1518:20:46, 14 February 2008 (UTC) 1383:17:23, 14 February 2008 (UTC) 1358:18:32, 16 February 2008 (UTC) 1326:03:32, 15 February 2008 (UTC) 1310:20:50, 14 February 2008 (UTC) 1292:20:48, 14 February 2008 (UTC) 1278:20:39, 14 February 2008 (UTC) 1258:17:02, 14 February 2008 (UTC) 1208:20:16, 14 February 2008 (UTC) 1195:01:58, 13 February 2008 (UTC) 1181:01:42, 13 February 2008 (UTC) 1162:01:10, 13 February 2008 (UTC) 1144:00:59, 13 February 2008 (UTC) 1121:01:42, 13 February 2008 (UTC) 1093:00:54, 13 February 2008 (UTC) 1071:00:51, 13 February 2008 (UTC) 1049:00:47, 13 February 2008 (UTC) 1029:00:09, 13 February 2008 (UTC) 1002:23:33, 12 February 2008 (UTC) 980:22:32, 12 February 2008 (UTC) 952:22:31, 12 February 2008 (UTC) 937:22:19, 12 February 2008 (UTC) 923:22:17, 12 February 2008 (UTC) 908:22:04, 12 February 2008 (UTC) 881:01:55, 12 February 2008 (UTC) 846:14:58, 11 February 2008 (UTC) 806:21:02, 11 February 2008 (UTC) 792:17:50, 11 February 2008 (UTC) 766:17:46, 11 February 2008 (UTC) 752:18:17, 10 February 2008 (UTC) 733:14:29, 10 February 2008 (UTC) 5974:Memorial Coliseum (Portland) 5567:Knowledge:The Missing Manual 5561:Knowledge:The Missing Manual 5291:Knowledge:Notability (music) 4168:I just started a page here: 2700:Thanks for the rescue guys! 2055:a list has been started here 695:06:00, 7 February 2008 (UTC) 664:23:27, 5 February 2008 (UTC) 623:23:20, 5 February 2008 (UTC) 604:22:48, 5 February 2008 (UTC) 584:22:13, 5 February 2008 (UTC) 518:00:08, 2 February 2008 (UTC) 504:23:33, 1 February 2008 (UTC) 491:23:30, 1 February 2008 (UTC) 478:23:24, 1 February 2008 (UTC) 450:02:00, 31 January 2008 (UTC) 396:00:47, 31 January 2008 (UTC) 381:19:41, 30 January 2008 (UTC) 362:19:37, 30 January 2008 (UTC) 333:19:33, 30 January 2008 (UTC) 324:19:21, 30 January 2008 (UTC) 309:19:26, 30 January 2008 (UTC) 295:19:23, 30 January 2008 (UTC) 281:19:21, 30 January 2008 (UTC) 258:19:17, 30 January 2008 (UTC) 242:19:09, 30 January 2008 (UTC) 221:18:18, 31 January 2008 (UTC) 205:03:11, 31 January 2008 (UTC) 179:06:11, 30 January 2008 (UTC) 151:05:30, 30 January 2008 (UTC) 124:05:07, 30 January 2008 (UTC) 7: 6269:entries from new articles. 5495:No thanks. It doesn't meet 5436:formation, locations, etc. 5182:music notability guidelines 4392:noticeably work really well 4012:I came across this post at 3897:IRC for WikiProject Oregon? 3353:Oregon Legislative Assembly 2980:that awesome hit count tool 2971:Some fun stats to play with 1444:and get them removed. (See 1427:did not, in fact, traverse 1013:What the Bleep Do We Know!? 700:Update on The Oregon Portal 613:note to the orig. author. - 10: 6661: 6646:21:00, 25 April 2008 (UTC) 6604:misspelled Lake "Albert". 6600:s front page story today, 6379:this (Scientific American) 6326:Hope to see some of you! - 5713:19:35, 29 March 2008 (UTC) 5690:03:51, 29 March 2008 (UTC) 5672:03:45, 29 March 2008 (UTC) 5653:03:27, 29 March 2008 (UTC) 5634:18:07, 28 March 2008 (UTC) 5598:18:07, 28 March 2008 (UTC) 5583:00:46, 28 March 2008 (UTC) 5551:05:41, 26 March 2008 (UTC) 5533:05:35, 26 March 2008 (UTC) 5511:05:02, 26 March 2008 (UTC) 5489:04:59, 26 March 2008 (UTC) 5441:02:18, 26 March 2008 (UTC) 5268:23:03, 31 March 2008 (UTC) 5250:23:02, 31 March 2008 (UTC) 5230:22:56, 31 March 2008 (UTC) 5141:19:39, 31 March 2008 (UTC) 5117:02:34, 28 March 2008 (UTC) 5098:09:32, 27 March 2008 (UTC) 5086:Oregon Student Association 5055:04:21, 27 March 2008 (UTC) 5041:03:24, 27 March 2008 (UTC) 5007:03:14, 27 March 2008 (UTC) 4978:23:13, 25 March 2008 (UTC) 4915:03:34, 26 March 2008 (UTC) 4863:00:15, 26 March 2008 (UTC) 4842:I knows it when I sees it. 4834:23:30, 25 March 2008 (UTC) 4802:23:15, 25 March 2008 (UTC) 4775:23:00, 25 March 2008 (UTC) 4745:15:53, 23 March 2008 (UTC) 4636:21:45, 22 March 2008 (UTC) 4598:21:14, 22 March 2008 (UTC) 4573:21:07, 22 March 2008 (UTC) 4546:22:50, 31 March 2008 (UTC) 4530:20:21, 31 March 2008 (UTC) 4507:22:47, 25 March 2008 (UTC) 4472:22:55, 26 March 2008 (UTC) 4463:22:40, 25 March 2008 (UTC) 4448:22:34, 25 March 2008 (UTC) 4437:requested photos in Oregon 4418:22:02, 25 March 2008 (UTC) 4364:21:29, 25 March 2008 (UTC) 4337:21:13, 25 March 2008 (UTC) 4320:21:09, 25 March 2008 (UTC) 4294:21:11, 25 March 2008 (UTC) 4268:21:05, 25 March 2008 (UTC) 4252:19:40, 22 March 2008 (UTC) 4221:19:40, 22 March 2008 (UTC) 4203:22:23, 21 March 2008 (UTC) 4184:21:17, 21 March 2008 (UTC) 4144:15:35, 19 March 2008 (UTC) 4080:20:57, 19 March 2008 (UTC) 4061:11:08, 19 March 2008 (UTC) 4046:20:49, 18 March 2008 (UTC) 3996:01:26, 15 March 2008 (UTC) 3978:01:22, 15 March 2008 (UTC) 3963:01:02, 15 March 2008 (UTC) 3935:19:29, 14 March 2008 (UTC) 3919:09:07, 14 March 2008 (UTC) 3889:20:28, 13 March 2008 (UTC) 3871:19:57, 13 March 2008 (UTC) 3848:17:50, 13 March 2008 (UTC) 3817:09:12, 12 March 2008 (UTC) 3784:07:04, 11 March 2008 (UTC) 3769:06:58, 11 March 2008 (UTC) 3243:Lewis and Clark Expedition 2997:06:51, 11 March 2008 (UTC) 2957:15:01, 23 April 2008 (UTC) 2923:06:51, 11 March 2008 (UTC) 2897:06:31, 11 March 2008 (UTC) 2875:06:30, 11 March 2008 (UTC) 2854:04:14, 11 March 2008 (UTC) 2791:03:34, 10 March 2008 (UTC) 2642:Oregon Student Association 2177:Oregon Encyclopedia, redux 1109:Category:Orcas from Oregon 1037:Category:Orcas from Oregon 534:, who apparently lives in 6614:14:48, 4 April 2008 (UTC) 6590:00:31, 4 April 2008 (UTC) 6574:23:23, 3 April 2008 (UTC) 6556:23:20, 3 April 2008 (UTC) 6536:20:55, 3 April 2008 (UTC) 6508:20:45, 3 April 2008 (UTC) 6476:20:36, 3 April 2008 (UTC) 6446:20:29, 3 April 2008 (UTC) 6424:20:20, 3 April 2008 (UTC) 6414:20:08, 3 April 2008 (UTC) 6365:04:49, 3 April 2008 (UTC) 6351:20:17, 2 April 2008 (UTC) 6336:18:27, 2 April 2008 (UTC) 6301:02:39, 2 April 2008 (UTC) 6209:22:57, 4 April 2008 (UTC) 6166:11:44, 2 April 2008 (UTC) 6132:09:28, 2 April 2008 (UTC) 6101:08:33, 2 April 2008 (UTC) 6083:08:22, 2 April 2008 (UTC) 6015:06:25, 2 April 2008 (UTC) 5999:22:41, 1 April 2008 (UTC) 5746:22:41, 1 April 2008 (UTC) 5457:16:53, 1 April 2008 (UTC) 5402:07:08, 1 April 2008 (UTC) 5358:and say I am a band from 5334:03:24, 1 April 2008 (UTC) 5307:02:05, 1 April 2008 (UTC) 4844:and someone or something 4735:page however.) Thanks! -- 4680:19:01, 8 April 2008 (UTC) 4655:18:42, 8 April 2008 (UTC) 4520:and needs to be deleted. 4518:criteria #12 under images 3879:That's a beautiful list. 2819:23:55, 9 March 2008 (UTC) 2774:22:21, 9 March 2008 (UTC) 2754:Categories for Discussion 2747:22:00, 9 March 2008 (UTC) 2710:22:21, 9 March 2008 (UTC) 2696:21:39, 8 March 2008 (UTC) 2681:02:17, 8 March 2008 (UTC) 2662:02:10, 8 March 2008 (UTC) 2635:03:31, 5 March 2008 (UTC) 2620:00:32, 5 March 2008 (UTC) 2598:06:15, 4 March 2008 (UTC) 2532:23:35, 1 March 2008 (UTC) 2505:23:03, 1 March 2008 (UTC) 2482:00:04, 1 March 2008 (UTC) 2421:So- any thoughts on that 2067:09:49, 5 March 2008 (UTC) 2057:, with about 50 entries. 1011:I'd like to propose that 638:Wired News - May 3, 2007 460:Lewis and Clark journals? 418:Oregon Secretary of State 267:Future election candidate 5982:Oregon Convention Center 5970:Oregon State Fairgrounds 5760:Cascadia subduction zone 5390:Flying Spaghetti Monster 4514:Image:Phil Knight-1-.jpg 3053:Cascadia subduction zone 2667:Well, there's certainly 1431:in their blazing of the 1404:viewed over 22,000 times 6396:Now guys…don't look at 6355:Yaay! 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