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be someone who enters combat mode rather readily. It is a pity that she took my queries amiss: I inquired as to what was the nature of her special interest in Regina, Saskatchewan, given that she is in Brisbane, Australia; I wondered if, given that she is in Brisbane, Australia, she is an aboriginal Australian and if this might account for her rather unusual manner of expressing herself in English. She apparently regards this as a racist attack and it is an odd notion of racism to characterise it as such. It is nothing of the kind: I have worked for the better part of 30 years with Papua New Guineans, aboriginal Canadians and aboriginal Australians as a teacher, colleague, employer, employee and friend. Ms Crisp's English is -- well, she bristles at its being characterised as non-native or substandard; but special, at any rate, and my entirely neutral inquiry was by way of a friendly attempt to account for it.
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Oh well, there's some signs that this whole thing is calming down. I've not seen any evidence that Masalai acknowledges having been in any way rude or incivil, instead he has been telling everyone who thinks so that they must've misunderstood. Still, I won't push it, assuming he refrains from making
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But even if it wasn't, the tone would be completely inacceptible. (I don't mean *your* tone, Masalais) Fixing any concrete mistakes would be fine. Even posting concrete, constructive suggestions for improvements on the user-page would be fine. (I notice you tend to sometimes write "ligth" when you
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Thank you for your obviously well-intentioned caveat "With regard to your comments on User:Michellecrisp: Please see Knowledge's no personal attacks policy" but it is misplaced. It is quite unnecessary, I assure you, and I have entirely backed away from any interaction with Ms Crisp, who appears to
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Apologies- there was meant to be a sense of humour in the comment there but clearly I didnt flag it as such - and you have responded to it defensively - the comment was made in the heat of trying to find a clear criteria guideline as to where the N line is drawn - the wikipedia community at times
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Ok so you could be considered the non random obsessive deletor then? - I am looking at some of your proposed deletions - and that seems your project - where is the point at where you will not put it up for afd? - is it you are seeking out only the low notability items (there is a hell of a lot of
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Maybe I'm a weirdo, but I actively encourage people to pick on my english -- that'll help me improve afterall. But the thing is, it needs to be *constructive* picking. "Your english is substandard" is no help for me at all, and feels only like a personal attack. "I noticed that you sometimes write
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My pleasure (so to speak). I think this refusal to discuss on the merits is absurd (after all, the centralized discussion might drag on for weeks/months), and if there's any indication the "keep until the discussion is over" votes influenced closing administrators not to delete (where substantive
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but merely reflect local biases and subjective opinion. Your arguments on my talk page are no more relevant than the ones made at AfD. That there are 40,000 combinations of bilateral relations is irrelevant. If they are notable, they should have articles; if not, they shouldn't. We don't delete
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as well as other military assistance; this was part of Haile Selassie's strategy of reducing his dependence on the three European countries -- France, Italy & the UK -- which controlled neighboring territories. As for Austria, not only do they provide a significant share of foreign aid to
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I happened to have tagged the drug lord category for the process of tagging NZ categories - btw there are some about to try bots :) I personally would counsel against seeking empty or one entry categories without careful consideration of the category structures of wiki projects
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more unacceptable comments in the future. It's possible to understand you behaved badly, but still be unwilling to actually admit it. And in this case I think it's enough. I've had a dig in the contributions, and it does not seem to be a persistent pattern of behaviour. --
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has information including a lot of MoH companies and agencies, one is not sure how to successfully configure this material. Tajik doesn't seem to have a lot of its ministries up and running, vis a vis websites, main government pages are at
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comments all or nearly all called for deletion), then we should look at DRV or re-nomination. By the way, I think it's now safe to experiment with prodding some of the more absurd combinations, like
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I think it's completely beside the point if anyones english is, infact, poor or good. In MichelleCrisps case I'm of the opinion that her english is perfectly good -- certainly much better than mine.
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Hi LibStar, The user in question is not actually "banned", the user is a "previously suspected" sockpuppet. You should probably change your submittal at Sockpuppet Investigations.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Centralized_discussion/Bilateral_international_relations#Votes_on_whether_we_should_have_a_separate_notability_guideline_for_bilateral_relations
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Thanks for the comment on my talk page. I agree there needs to be a cleanup process for these articles and that will involve AfD. Those articles unable to demonstrate notability
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Hi, Australia-South Africa relations is a nice article; I read WP:DELT and also have awareness of articles relating to Piracy in Somalia and Piracy in the Malacca Strait, viz
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articles is not a lot. That the creator of the articles is currently blocked from editing is also irrelevant, provided that the articles were created before the editor was
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seems to be separated between those who seem to spend all their time deleting - and others who do otherwise - it is heartening that to see you are capable of both :) -
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Would you like some objective data to demonstrate that Redfern is a socially deprived area? Or don't Liberals acknowledge that social deprivation exists in Australia?
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explains systemic bias and works to eradicate it. I fear this current campaign against articles on bilateral relations will only reinforce Wiki's built in biases. --
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Thanks for continuing to do your best to get rid of these random country articles. I must say, I like your description of "the obsessive article creator" :-)
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them out there) - where's your perception of the point of leaving some alone? what is the criteria for notable/leave alone? It would be useful to know -
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Ethiopia, they also have a notable African Studies department at their major university. If you don't mind, I'd like to restore those two links. --
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to Knowledge! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:
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obsessive deletor? shame I've created these articles recently. That accusation doesn't stick if you think I want to delete obsessively.
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Hi, just a note, I noticed you were working on deletion; in case one wants to work on something more interesting than deleting,
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on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your name and the date. If you need help, check out
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be deleted. My concern is with the rather poor arguments made for deletion that have nothing to do with Knowledge's actual
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There *is* no user-warning for "Your english is too poor, please stop contributing". For good reason if you ask me. :-) --
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Thanks for the heads up, i think you're right, though it seems to depend on the admin. I will try different tactics!
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Thanks for your support LibStar. I will only make one comment, the evidence is mounting of uncivil conduct.
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notable historical relations with Ethiopia. Under Haile Selassie, for example Belgium helped to train the
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Hi, you should apply the length tag to the following articles that are over 100 kilobytes in size:
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articles on U.S. localities (let's say) just because there is a lot of them. Besides, 40,000 from
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underneath every vote that does not happen to coincide with your viewpoint is productive. —
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The whole process seems to be one of creating rather than combating Wikpedia's built-in
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This is a message to warn you that you've been reported to the Wikiquette alert board.--
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If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the
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Just curious, why the – for Australia/RSA, but the - for other relations?
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Actually, both of the countries you removed from this template have
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editors after they were banned, not content created before a ban.
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plaesant, the word is really 'pleasant'" is however constructive.
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it is acceptable to revert and remove content provided from
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in sports, this particular one has garnerned coverage in
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after the question on your talk page. Again, welcome!  --
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really mean "light", a good rule of thumb is .....")
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Index

User talk:LibStar
archive
current talk page
Archive 1
Archive 2
Archive 3
Archive 5
Masalai
08:32, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
Michellecrisp
12:13, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
Eivind Kjørstad
07:31, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
Eivind Kjørstad
08:16, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
Masalai
10:47, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
Intelligent Mr Toad
15:39, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
Michellecrisp
15:48, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
Synchronism
talk
07:11, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

talk
01:27, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

deletion policy
2,841,882 (to date)

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