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Americans vs. Canadians and Americans vs. Brazilians. They also display fighters with their representative flag before every fight, so it could be said that each fighter is a national representative unto themselves. It's essentially a more ethnocentric version of what boxing, golf, and tennis all do. This is a very specific case I realize, but thank you for taking the time to go over it.
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Not particularly - look for interesting ones (well, most of them will be interesting to someone, I suspect, so that's a low bar) and avoid too many similar ones in the same set e.g. five hurricanes. Images not essential in my personal view but if you can find one per set, fantastic. Watch for facts
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was promoted with just one support for some reason. The more reviewers that you can recruit, therefore, the better. You may note from the page history at FPoC that nominations tend to linger longer than nominations at FAC/FLC, so don't be surprised if your nomination is on the page for some time...
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Well, top-drawer on that shortcut! Also, that's what I get for chosing "Math" when it comes to "easiest ways to randomize something". Do you have any advice for which 38 articles would be best as DYKs? I imagine we'd want one with a free-use image per set-of-5, but are there any other pitfalls I
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Hi, Achowat. Regarding my comment at the recent MfD - I wanted to quickly clarify since the discussion has been closed. I meant: anti-vandalism efforts in one place, and reviewing efforts in another. So, centralized individually. Sorry for the confusion.
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Vermont state legislature at the upcoming 2006 election?") - copyedit as necessary, I suggest. Reviewing the rest of the portal now, you'll be pleased to hear...
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