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If we talk about "this source" before we present the source, the template uses a colon not a full stop. The issue here is that the three templates all said the same things, but one required a parameter and one was designed to come after the source, so after the merge we ended up with a template that
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the source is just... weird. By saying "this source", we are specifically saying which source is being used, even if it comes first. The other templates do not need to do that because they are hard-coded to put the source at the end of the sentence/phrase. If you really want to make it "a
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Ah! I see that now. The reason for "now" in the previous attribution string is that the text may not have been in the public domain previously, usually because it is now out of copyright, or because for example in the the case of HMG they changed their policy and licensing. --
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