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943: 1145: 862: 844: 1378:(arguably a primary topic-like difference, but I definitely don't think this should be moved to just "Princess Charlotte"). To me, that means most readers are searching for this Charlotte and not the daughter of George IV, but people looking for his daughter are more aware that she was "of Wales". Personally, I wouldn't see any harm in doing a trial run with this article at the base name, and then revisit in a few months of the WikiNav results show a concerning percentage of readers navigating to the Hanoverian princess through the hatnote. 794: 692: 671: 1060: 776: 702: 1270:– Out of the two pages bearing the name Princess Charlotte of Wales - this Charlotte has the higher page count by about 70%, is currently alive, and will remain more relevant. Furthermore Princess Charlotte of Wales (1796–1817) perfectly describes the other Charlotte and users can find this quite clearly (as they already do). This should clear up any confusion for users looking for Princess Charlotte during high profile events such as the coronation, royal weddings etc 933: 912: 250: 421: 538: 476: 452: 1021: 1097: 220: 1629: 591: 570: 486: 1521:. Premature. The first Princess Charlotte of Wales will always be known as Princess Charlotte of Wales and has a very high chance of retaining the long-term significance of that name over the span of history. The new Princess Charlotte has a very high chance of being called something else in a few years' time and people will come to know her by that name. 1476:
Page views are not always decisive. We do have a large number of articles on obscure minor royals who only just pass notability. However the earlier Princess Charlotte is a significant figure, she would have become monarch if she had lived, and her premature death sparked off a significant crisis,
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I think there is a good case to be made for the birth dates to be used both for the subject of this article and George IV's daughter. The name Princess Charlotte of Wales for William and Catherine's daughter may be temporary. It is likely that her title will change when her father becomes king.
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There is no big difference between the two pages in terms of views. Frankly, how readers get to each page does not matter. The raw number of page views indicate that both subjects are of equal interest to readers. It does not matter that one if dead.
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it would be better if the present article name is kept just as it is. Anyway in a few years' time when her father ascends to the throne her official name will differ from the other Princess Charlotte and we do have disambiguation pages also.
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your argument is not definite. What do you mean by a "Cautious Oppose"? Are you in or out? My meaning in saying this is are you supporting the move which the majority of us see as unnecessary and unwanted or are you with us?
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I have been adding what number in the line to the throne members were placed when they were born. For instance, Charlotte was 4th in the line when she was born. Since the death of Queen Elizabeth II, she is 3rd in the line.
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This requires a comma as it is a full date rather than just the year or the month followed by the year. Removed publisher locations and also retaining "BBC News" not "BBC" as the former is more common. Regards
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Good point. When King Charles pops his clogs I think she will become "The Princess Charlotte". She may well be eventually given an additional title, e.g. Countess of Something, or Princess Royal.
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Given all the prose-related changes I have now made, I hope this article will be passed as GA by tomorrow. Let me know if any further changes you would like to see in a Good Article. Regards
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Making the changes now but in school my teacher does not accept it when we begin a sentence with "Because" and I am studying British English like you once did in middle school. Regards
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Thanks for taking up the review. I hope this is successful and that you are doing well in real life. Looking forward to the coming days and your subsequent comments. Regards
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Sources I spotchecked: 1, 2, 8, 11, 14, 21 and 23 are generally fine, although 11 is Fox News and doesn't support that she was known as "Charlotte Cambridge"
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Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a
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Would you please help me with replacing the Fox News and Evening Standard refs? I could not find any alternatives on Google. Regards
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Describe what it is in a few words. Is it a newspaper, organisation, think tank, company, etc. Introduce it briefly to the reader.
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Sorry but I could not find suitable sources on the same event to replace Evening Standard. Would you please help me? Regards.
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Don't you think that beginning a sentence with "Because" does not seem that good. It's taught in British English. Regards
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refs (eg refs 6 and 21): differences between the name, italicisation, subscription parameter, etc. Standardise.
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Someone uploaded a new photo of the little princess. One that shows her at the age of 9.
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We have "King Charles III" and "Elizabeth II" - one style should be used consistently
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that she was born fourth in the line before the death of Queen Elizabeth II? Please.
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Good article overall. Some issues need fixing, but nothing too serious. Pinging
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Some refs have publisher locations (eg ref 5's "London") - all or nothing again
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On 8 September 2022, Charlotte's paternal great-grandmother Elizabeth II died
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Issues 6 and 7 have also been resolved. Then only point 4 left. Regards
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Since the article's so short there isn't much need for a table...
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not Brand Finance. The latter does not appear in prose. Regards
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Some refs have quotes and others don't - I'd standardise that
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On 10 September 2023, it was proposed that this article be
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More specifically for prose: bullet points 4, 6 and 7.
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Reviewing upon request. Will begin today or tomorrow.
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