Talk:2011 Israeli border demonstrations

3159:"One of those killed, Ezzat Maswadi, was a Palestinian born in Jerusalem in 1977, who grew up in al-Eizariya. His family moved to Jordan in 1984, and then Syria, and when he and his mother tried to go back to Jerusalem to join his father years later, they were denied residency permits and had to return to Syria. When Maswadi heard people were going to march towards Israel on May 15, he decided to join and almost made it back to Jerusalem before being stopped at an Israeli checkpoint outside the city and sent back to Syria. One June 5, he tried again and this time was killed by Israeli fire. His father, who lives in al-Eizariya, could not procure a permit to travel to Damascus to attend his funeral." 873: 852: 2072:

to have the historical context of the Arab Spring (which it would still have, even if the claims of background organisation and payoff are confirmed) -- and I did not notice anyone objecting to all those other articles about the Arab Spring on the basis that they were posted specifically because they involved Arabs. Yet every single time that any mention of an Israeli military action is made, it is immediately met with claims of bad faith in an anti-Semetic context, such as the one above. It almost seems to me that to mention any Israeli military action whatsoever on ITN would be met with such claims ... but would not such a reaction itself be NPOV? - Tenebris 21:35, 9 June 2011 (UTC)

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one objects to, then there is no reason for you not to make it. Well thats your personal pov. You are fully aware of that claiming that these are Israels borders are not internationally recognized and that it implys that the Golan heights are part of Israel. Could you please tell me where on Knowledge there is consensus to present the GH as part of Israel? or how that would be in accordance with Knowledge policy npov? Why do you object to the name "2011 Nakba and Naksa days demonstrations" How is this not a better and neutral name? --

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the fence and shot at protesters from another location several hundred meters away." It also says: "The AP quoted a 29-year-old man who had been "shot in the waist" as saying, "We were trying to cut the barbed wire when the Israeli soldiers began shooting directly at us." The AP reported that Capt. Barak Raz, an Israeli military spokesman, "confirmed that protesters made it through a first layer of the border fence ... but got no closer than 160 meters away from the final fence."

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those, not because it was not relevant (especially in the context of an "Arab spring" also originally organised through Facebook), but because some of those sources generally try to avoid any stories whatsoever about Israeli border or disputed region enforcement action. To give an idea of what I mean, those same sources have reported only one other story about Israeli border clashes in the entire past year - the boat incident. - Tenebris 06:02, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

59: 43: 271: 382: 361: 3307:. This addition is not supported by the sources cited, and you are well aware that descendants of Palestinian refugees are considered refugees by UNRWA. This is POV language and should be removed. Furthermore, your deletion of the arab Spring cats is not supported by the discussion on the issue above where nobody has made a credible argument as to why we should ignore that multiple reliable sources characterize the protests in this way. 392: 21: 2163: 2538:. Sources referring to this as the "Israeli border" are using slipshod language or simply unaware that the Golan is Israeli-occupied territory. We should make that more clear in our article. Which the raises the issue of the article title. It is misleading to refer to these as "Israeli border demonstrations". Its also confusing (were Israelis protesting at their borders?). I think the suggestion to rename this article 209: 3301:

Syrian uprising. The statement claims that protesters were paid about 1000 dollars for protesting, with 10,000 being offered to their family if the protester was killed. Also Syrian State TV reported 6 hours live from the incident, whilst not reporting on Syrian crackdowns at all." If you find thisparagraph to be insuffficient, please provide sources and or a sample paragraph for what you would like to see included.

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with any country besides Egypt and Jordan, and as far as I know there were no protests on either of those borders. I havent figured out what to use in place of border, Im currently thinking boundary would be better, but the word "border" is inaccurate. Especially for the case of the Golan, as the boundary that people were attempting to cross is a ceasefire line that is entirely in Syria.

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no question that inspiration spread like wildfire -- but to assume they all arose from the same roots would be misleading. Without going into in-depth discussion, consider only the extremely different outcomes in Tunisia, Egypt, Libya, Syria, and Saudi Arabia; and consider the roles of existing populist organisations in each of those countries. - Tenebris 21:43, 9 June 2011 (UTC)

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border where this was happening on the pre-1967 Israeli border, as our aticle said when I raised the question, or whether it took place on the separation line that followed the '67 and '73 wars which Israel asserts is its border but no other state recognises. Some of the sources you linked refer to the Golan border with Syria and some to the Israeli border.--

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there were conflicting reports about happened. If you insist on including it, it should be rephrased, and we should mention the Lebanese perspective for balance. Also, you added 'Lebanese' before 'media' in the sentence that followed, even though the sources cited were BBC and Al Jazeera. Not an accurate label.

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If you managed to find a couple of sources that refers to the ceasefire line in Golan as "border" then how does this change the fact that, higher quality sources, including UN and international community views shows that the ceasefire line in the Golan is not in any way "Israels border" ? Saying that

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How come? After I suggested the name not a single argument or objection has been made against it. I don't go after your edits reverting every edit you make and demand that you gain support from numerous editors at the talkpage before making the changes, if you want to do an edit to an article that no

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for such a move. You should know you're conduct is unsupported despite the lack of objections to your informal suggestion to move the page. And these clearly are the functional borders of Israel, whether or not they are recognized internationally. Start a formal process to move the page if you'd like

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Plot spoiler, the issue has already been discussed above, so why did you move the article back to its previous name? It is clear from the discussion that "2011 Israeli border demonstrations" is a false and misleading name that violates npov, I also suggested "2011 Nakba and Naksa days demonstrations"

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Personally I'm not fine with it because protests are held weekly in the West Bank. Title needs to be more precise. When Palestinian protest in September, what then? September 2011 Palestinian protests? That article needs be filed at AFD. Content from that article (any actual content) should be merged

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A lot of the sources are from the day after the event before all the facts were known. It is now assumed Syria was carting off protesters to the border themselves to distract from their own crack-down. Jerusalem Post is a reliable source and claims that Israeli fired warning shots or shot at the legs

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There is a whole paragraph expressing the POV that the syrian government orchestrated the events at the border. It says : "The Syrian Reform Party issued a statement accusing the Syrian regime of hiring Syrian protesters to storm the border to deflect attention from its own crackdown against the 2011

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As a note, one should not paint the whole of the Arab world with a single brush. Most of the individual uprisings throughout the Arab world are part of ongoing issues within *their* own respective countries. "Arab Spring" is a media coinage that links all the current protests together -- and there is

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states : "Witnesses said that the soldiers, who were firing from behind a fence, shot many protesters who were trying to cross a ditch filled with barbed wire, around 100 or more meters away from the soldiers; in addition, two witnesses said that some Israeli troops crossed over to the Syrian side of

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is? Zionism is the belief and movement that Jews have the right to return to their historical homeland. If another people were kicked from their land by Romans, of course all these Europeans would be silent if they decided enough is enough, no more persecution by Christians, let's return to our home.

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Hmm. I believe that the boat incident I mentioned earlier -- from just over a year ago -- was the last time any Israeli military border action made the ITN front page of Knowledge. Equally as I mentioned earlier, extremely few Israeli military actions are mentioned at all. This particular one happens

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No I'm not, neither Israels legal or physical border is deep inside internationally recognized Syrian land. What do you mean by "before implementing your POV" What is "my POV" that I have tried to ad to the article? What I have said above is not my personal POV, its reality, and I suggest that from

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The title, and the body, makes a rather important factual error, in that it defines the boundaries between Israel and the Palestinian territories and the boundary between the Israeli-occupied portion of the Golan Heights and the rest of Syria as the "borders of Israel". Israel does not have a border

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One AlJazeera opinion article that is cited by this page has been removed by AlJazeera, possibly because of incorrect information. A search on Aljazeera confirms the existence of the article, but the URL is non-functional. The Knowledge sentence:"According to Israeli officials, they counted 10 dead,

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days after the events, which was reprinted by hundreds of other news outlets. His story is more relevant and illustrative of who participated in this event than the claims of the Syrian Reform Party and its inclusion provides balance to their view which states that the protestors were paid agents of

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Tenebris' comments are certainly true, but even if we use a wide generalization of "Arab Spring" = Anti current leadership - it leaves out the Israeli related activities stated in this article. You can also certainly not dismiss the connection offhand, but we should treat these events as part of the

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I concur. The presence of this piece on Knowledge's News violates NPOV. It's certainly less notable than other similar events inside Syria (mentioned above) which do not involve Jews and there is this suspicion that it was chosen specifically because it involves Jews. Not Israelis... Jews. We should

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I don't know, neither does anyone else. There isn't any generally assumed close date for "the next round of border demonstrations", so my guess it's over. Assuming there will be demonstrations around september 2011, the expected UN vote, they will probably be bigger than these events, and require a

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The total without the injuries in the Golan, for which the only source is Syria, is 380+ (the plus being "dozens" in Syria on May 15th. When the 350 figure for injured given by the Syrian government for June 6th is added, the figure would be 730+. I think "hundreds" is good. Alternatively, we could

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Your addition about the soldiers shooting at the legs of protestors is sourced to Jpost (thanks for clarifying that). Its a very close paraphrase, it gives predominance to the Israeli POV without attributing the statement and prejudices the balanced presentation of facts that follows that explains

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where it clearly does not belong. Furthermore, that claim is balanced by the Israeli claim that the figure is exaggerated, and without it, the lead does not mention the casualties of June. If you feel strongly that that claim should be removed, it should be replaced with another sources discussing

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Thanks, Tiamut. A lot of the wording of the sources is rather slipshod. There has been one discussion going on in this page about whether the Israeli soldiers were under threat and your sources seem to suggest that they were not as there was plenty of barbed wire etc. My issue was with whether the

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Well please try crossing the EU and/or Schengen space border (on foot/ground -- arriving on boats doesn't apply) anywhere illegally and see what happens. Let's imagine a mob of Belarussian marxists insisting on crossing into Poland. Dead-brainer. Of course they'd be stopped. Obviously Belorussians

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Errrr, the article said the Israelis dug a trench and told the protesters in Arabic (with megaphones) not to cross the trench. Protesters who crossed were resisted with tear gas and when that didn't work, shot in the feet. I highly doubt this trench was on the Syrian side. Hence presumably they

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Does anyone wish to include information from the story which report that coupons were the source of this bloody struggle? Multiple sources reported that the Syrians who died each had a coupon book on their person and Israeli troops decided to take what is rightfully not theirs (this isnt the first

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It is true per nableezys arguments above that the current title is false and misleading and a clear violation of npov. The biggest part of the demonstrations happened near Majdal Shams near the ceasefire line, to claim that this is "Israels border" is claiming that the Israeli occupied portion of

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The article claims that the U.S position was that Israel has the right to defend its "sovereign borders" from Syrian protestors in the Golan Heights. This is inaccurate, as the U.S does not recognize Israeli sovereignty over the Golan Heights, and this claim is not supported by the source that is

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If you managed to find a couple of sources that refers to the ceasefire line in Golan as "border" then that is unfortunate, higher quality sources, including UN and international community views shows that the ceasefire line in the Golan is not in any way "Israels border", so current name can not

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About the 'Palestinian medics' addition, I thought it was more than just the BBC that reported that and that the attribution was unnecessary. After reviewing the sources, it appears I was wrong. Accordingly, it can be reincluded, but should read 'said' rather than 'claim' which is a weasel word.

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About the Arab spring, Knowledge's definition is not an RS. These events have been described by RS as "unprecedented" and as forming part of the Arab Spring. Morrocco, where there is no revolution, but there are protests, is covered by RS as forming part of the Arab Spring. Its better to stick to

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Why is this event considered here part of the Arab spring"? I happened during the same period of time, but Israel isn't an Arab country, the demonstators aren't attempting to cause an Israeli revolution. It sould be cataloged as part of the Arab-Israeli conflict, not of an internal Arab conflict.

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more important than any of these Palestinian incidents because it's a major development in what is shaping up to be a civil war in Syria, while both of the others are mere side incidents to this same civil war. Well over 1,000 people have been killed by the Assad govt in the last few months; why

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Actually, "hardly made the front page" is not an acknowledgement at all, it was meant as "wasn't even close to making the front page". At least, it didn't make the front page anywhere I looked. Keep in mind that many sources, Palestinians too, think that this was a sham protest organized by the

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Why don't you see any consensus? What valid argument has been presented against the move? How is "2011 Israeli border demonstrations" neutral? If you managed to find a couple of sources that refers to the ceasefire line in Golan as "border" then how does this change the fact that, higher quality

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I just don't think it is appropriate to include claims by the Syrian authority in the lead. We could just as easily say, "According to Israeli authorities, most of the protesters were killed by Lebanese fire, and others died after they threw fire bombs at land mines that ignited and killed more.

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It did make the front page and the 6 o'clock news in several other non-Arabic parts of the world, even in western countries. (I also note that "hardly made the front page" is still an acknowledgement that it did make the front page.) I was rather surprised that it made the cut at all for some of

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This hardly made the front page on NYT or many other newspapers, so why is it on the front page of Knowledge? It looks strongly to me like certain pro-P editors are trying very hard to draw attention to a fairly minor event that (according to the newspapers) was staged by Syria in an attempt to

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Here in the edit you label as "restore before POV pushing move w/out attendant talk page discussion" where you remove that protesters went to the Israeli occupied portion of the Golan heights and replaced it with "Borders of Israel". Could you please explain how my edits are undiscussed or "POV

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Furthermore the fact that you registered your account only two days ago and seeing your edits where you are reverting back to Brewcrewers edits at Pariah state, following Sean Hoyland to March 2012 Gaza–Israel clashes, and me to this article, it doesn't take much to realize that you are an old

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What is your point? I haven't read that Facebook's TOS. If this facebook group did in fact call promote violence and there is a reliable source that exists attributing Facebook's decision to remove the group as a result then feel free to merge in the content. It's not smart to "change wording"

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Hi everyone, I am a bit troubled about the following statement in the paragraph describing the incident on June 5, "News coverage of the incident clearly shows the Israeli troops being attacked." The reason that it bothers me is that this is not cited and I cannot discern whether this is the

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sources, including UN and international community views shows that the ceasefire line in the Golan is not in any way "Israels border" ? Saying that it is "Israels border" is basically saying that Golan is Israel. I showed several sources above that uses Naksa/Nakba protests/demonstrations:

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of people in a counter facebook page acted to remove the page from facebook because it incited violence and posed a credible threat of violence. I am changing the wording on the page myself, and putting this page on my watch list, please reply here if you think my wording is not balanced.

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distract attention from its very bloody crackdown on its own citizens. Given that evidently the Palestinians themselves are trying to make a major issue of this, I think it's a serious neutrality violation for pro-P editors to try to trump this up by adding it to the WP front page.

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I still disagree. It is extremely likely that Palestinian Arabs are supported by Arabs of other areas that support the Arab Spring, and I wouldn't limit it to Pan-Arabism supporters as Jazeera did. Nevertheless, the Israel border demos, are not part of what we currently define in

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as "a revolutionary wave of demonstrations and protests that have been taking place in the Arab world since 18 December 2010." for two reasons. It is not a "revolutionary wave" - I haven't heard calls to remove Netanyahu from office. Also, Israel is not considered part of the

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A page calling for a "Third Palestinian Intifada" to begin on 15 May was started on March 9, 2011, garnered more than 350,000 "likes" before being taken down by Facebook managers at the end of March after complaints from the Israeli government that the page encouraged

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I'm confused of the flamewar between introducing and not introducing the original Naksa Day article in the June 5th article. I am for introducing the article in the beginning of the 5th june article, but it's dumb to include and than remove the link again and

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I have tagged the statement with the "citation needed" tag because if is obviously important and the editor who inserted it failed to provide any citations, and because it seems to contradict at least some of the media sources cited in the section.

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I see references to the demonstrations being on the Israeli border. Were they unequivocally so? Or were they on the border between the Syrian-controlled and the Israeli-controlled Golan Heights i.e. away from the internationally recognised Israeli

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It is questionable and probably a POV assertion that these border incidents are a part of the Arab Spring. There's as much evidence that these incidents are in opposition to the Arab Spring, given evidence they occurred at the behest of the Assad

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does not belong in the lead. The whole spat with Syria was very complicated while the current suggestion lead all those dead are at the fault of Israel. It doesn't make the lead incomplete by moving a one-sided viewpoint to a regulated status.

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The numbers killed is quoted as 31+ in the article, this is only accurate if official Syrian government sources are to be taken as reliable. Israeli sources dispute this figure. It would be helpful if someone can provide an independent source.

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have none of this, the piece should be removed from the front page. It is clearly less notable than Assam's massacres and I find it TOO difficult to assume good faith regarding the decision of this piece's inclussion in the News section.

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and are thus imperialists themselves! Since Zionism is the belief that Jews have a right to return to their homeland, opposition to it means opposition to Jews returning to their historical homeland and is by definition anti-Semitism.

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time, but we're getting close to the 1,000th time, there's likely going to be a celebration then). Obviously international law means nothing to the Israelis, this goes without say and honestly did we expect anything else from Israel?

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Eraserhead1, if you had a choice between getting your skull crushed with a stone or shooting a person who is about to crush your skull with a stone and thus preventing your skull from getting crushed, which option would you choose?

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Syrian refugees fled to Turkey - they were welcomed with open arms. Syrian refugees fled to Golan - they were shot by evil Jews. Should the article reflect this difference in approaches by the civilized and the barbaric countries?

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Since when is throwing stones considered non-violent? My (admittedly spotty) knowledge of Middle East history and customs tells me that it's a common (if not primary) way of executing a criminal who has violated a moral code (see

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Not all of the demonstrations were at the border. The Lebanese ones (on June 5) were far from the border. Many Palestinians also protested in the West Bank at checkpoints, and it is contentious to call that the "border".

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quotes Ban Ki Moon as referring to the unsustainable status quo in the Arab-Israeli conflict in his statement on these events, but I'd like to see more sources before deciding how and where to include something on

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Golan is Israel. So therefore I want to move the article to an accurate name and neutral name, which is: "2011 Nakba and Naksa days demonstrations". Those two days were also what the demonstrations were about. --

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casualties from both days. We could the UN official Navi Pillay who is cited in the infobox for the figure of 30-40 casualties total instead. But it should not be removed until a substitute can be agreed upon.

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There are also discussions regarding how this article should be titled.If you unsatisfied with the options being discussed, please open a new section to propose your preferred title and garner consensus for a

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here although it appears to be entirely original research/synth. I think borders is the best compromise - even if it is 100% legally accurate. Sources describe Palestinians of breaching Israel's "borders."

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Edits made solely to enforce any clearly established consensus are exempt from all edit-warring restrictions. In order to be considered "clearly established" the consensus must be proven by prior talk-page

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There is an extensive source-based discussion above on how these events constitute part of the arab spring. Please participate in that discussion and explain how the sources there are unreliable in their

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WB: "More than 80 protestors, including three paramedics, sustained injuries and twenty were hospitalized; a doctor at the hospital said the last time he saw so many casualties in one day was during the

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Gaza: "IDF forces fired on the group intermittently over the course of a couple of hours with tanks, machine guns, gas canisters and sound bombs, killing one demonstrator and wounding more than 80."

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Of course they'd be stopped, but they'd be stopped in a way that didn't involve shooting them. You don't hear stories about how the US army shot 20 mexicans to stop them crossing their border. --

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5 days and no response? I feel the sources are reliable enough to support my original edits. I will restore some of my edits as well as adding info from the sources above over the next few days.

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The numbers in the infobox are totals from both the Nakba Day and Naksa Day events. An independent source, the UN Human Rights Commissioner Pillay, gives a total figure of 30 to 40 people killed

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Edits made which remove or otherwise change any material placed by clearly established consensus, without first obtaining consensus to do so, may be treated in the same manner as clear vandalism.

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Syria: "According to Syrian officials, 23 people were killed and 350 people were injured by Israeli snipers as they attempted over the course of several hours to breach the barbed-wire border."

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Thank you for providing the source on numbers of death. For the numbers injured, I don't think you can simply write "hundreds". The source simply says "large numbers of deaths and injuries".--

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With regards to the Arab Spring it has been extensively covered on the front page, while maybe not every incident has been covered there has been substantial coverage of it as a whole. --

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If there is thus a dispute over which side is peaceful, maybe the best thing is not to takes sides in this dispute: i.e., call these border crossings and related occurrences "incidents".

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front-page news on the NYT right now, and yet neither is considered "important" by whoever decides what to put on the WP front page. BTW from an objective standpoint, the second one is

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Mexican immigrants don't throw stones at you, lob rockets across the border, blow up buses, or actively encourage genocide by demanding that the United States be driven into the sea.

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As you can see I made a few changes to the article, expanding some of the content from original sources and rephrasing a few sentences. I added the number of protesters (roughly) and

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Maswadi's participation in both demonstrations at the armistice line, and his being killed in the second one were important enough that his story was the subject of an article run by

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I also have an alternative idea. Assuming you agree it is also part of the Arab Israeli Conflict, we may possibly define the demos as simultaneously part of both events. for example

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WB: " Over the course of several hours, 120 were injured, mostly by tear gas, but also by rubber bullets, sound bombs, and a new stink spray being used for crowd control purposes."

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One side has guns one side has stones, while it is dishonest to call the side with stones entirely non-violent, using guns against stone throwers is totally disproportional. --

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In sum, i will be reverting all of your changes, though I will be retaining the NPOV tag until the issue you raised about the Syrian government's involvement can be addressed.

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Since there are no current objections, I'm restoring the part regarding the Palestinian medical officials. But in line with Tiamut's suggestion, the word "said" is retained.

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Such things ussualy should gain consensus.I don't see any consensus for the move.Anyhow current title is neutral and used by many sources.So I oppose any change of title--

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The numbers injured is quoted as 530+, but the cited source states dozens, not 530+. It is not clear why someone wrote 530+. Again, we need an independent source. --

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Demonstration does not necessarily mean non-violent/peaceful. You're applying a specific meaning to a general term. One need look no further than Wiki's own bit on

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were deployed near Majdal Shams when the trouble started, since intelligence assessments spoke of a larger demonstration near the Quneitra Crossing to the south.

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Hey, Nutmegger, this talk page is meant for discussion on improving the article. If you want to post nonsensical anti-Semitic gibberish, I suggest you join

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Did anyone warn them (this is another Western concept of justice), as in, "Don't climb that fence / cross that line, or we've been ordered to shoot you"? --

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It should be stressed that what ever people may say, calls for the third intafada ARE violent. Given that the previous two intafadas were defined as a "

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Granted, neither of these involve Israelis, so they don't fit an "Israel is the source of all evil in the Middle East" narrative. But both of them

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http://web.archive.org/web/20110721224145/http://reformsyria.org/syrian-opposition/rps-statement-concerning-the-assad-stompers-of-the-golan-heights

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This article should not be part of the Arab spring although it occurs during this time. The article is part of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

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Assad government (hence the article I mention directly below about 14 Palestinians killed when some mourners protested being made pawns of Assad).

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Palestinians from a burgeoning new youth movement convened seminars on strategies for non-violent resistance to prepare for a May 15 march on the

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I'm also concerned with the reasons that any security forces shot or killed "demonstrators" (one side's word for them). Did any of them cross a

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The two mentioned in this article were both posted, before that it seems reasonable that the last thing posted was the boat storming. --

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On top of that, Israel says (see the first NYT article I quote) that at least 10 protesters at the border incident were killed by their

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Here are a couple of other things reported in the NYT from the same part of the world that you'd think would be at least as significant:

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DF officers admitted that they were not adequately prepared for the demonstration that developed along the border and that fewer than

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There is little to no mention in the article of evidence that the Syrian regime orchestrated the border incidents in the Golan region.

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So I'd like the admin who undid my page move to move it back. Especially because he's not an uninvolved admin but is editing a lot. --

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The first ditch with barbed wire that was breached was built after the events of May 15. (See this article in the Jerusalem Post:

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Read the article cited. It really helps if you do that before adding fact tags or asking questions that can be answered therein.

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This is an interesting suggestion but would make the scope of the article much larger. Some of the wider protest is discussed at

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You are conflating the legal boundaries with the physical borders. You should discuss such changes before implementing your POV.

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I'm fine with the article where it is. It's not worth distracting everyone from writing it, just to wrangle over renaming it. --

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none of whom were killed by Israeli fire." Link 37 is called "'Naksa' deaths spark Palestinian violence", and the link goes to

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Zionist-controlled Golan; illegal, unjust, unethical and definitely not recognized by anyone except Zionist-influenced USA.

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because it is highly undue. Unless one wants to create an article about the kid's death a whole paragraph doesn't belong.

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How is "2011 Israeli border demonstrations" "neutral"? when its is saying that Golan is Israel? You said it was "neutral"

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who managed to penetrate the LAF perimeter and reach the border fence. So it is not unsourced. It is almost verbatim.

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The title of this article is questionable. Once notable are the border incidents -- not the demonstrations themselves.

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Most of the sources describe it as protest on Israeli border they use such wording in the headline .Here is a few.

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Many of the sources cited in the article discuss this event in the context of the Arab spring. Here's another,

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Also, it should be mentioned how many soldiers were at the border verses the protesters they were facing:

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Lebanon: "Eleven participants were killed and 100 injured by gunfire before the protesters retreated."

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Okay then. Should I add all the cites above in the infobox? Or is it being cited in the body enough?

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We should. At the end of the day, these protests are deeply tied to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

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I also noticed that you added "descendants of" before "Palestinian refugees" throughout the article

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Given none of them actually succeeded in crossing the border I don't think that really applies. --

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article. Why the protestors demonstrated, in their own words, is certainly important and relevant.

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I reverted your edit because you moved the Syrian claim from the lead to the section on May 15th

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and etc. anyhow if you want to initiate discussion about name change you of course may do so.--

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But I could be wrong: maybe the whole point is that "refugees" are merely returning to "their"

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what sources say, than to make OR arguments based on Wiki definitions. No offense intended.

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Israeli gunfire kills 20 at border: Protesters shot trying to cross into land held by Israel

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However, state-run Syrian media says the majority of those killed were by Israeli fire..."

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Without wanting to canvass too much the 120 people dead has actually been nominated - see

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Israel clashes with protesters at Syrian border: Attempt to cross frontier leaves 22 dead

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So update the articles to the required standard and nominate the events for posting on

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dislike the way Israel behaves these days. I don't think they can be anti-semetic. --

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Israeli troops opened fire with tanks and machine guns, injuring dozens, Palestinian

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Is this really still ongoing or it was only happening around Nakba and Naksa day? --

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Not fussed, you may as well give a couple of cites in the infobox but <shrug: -->

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We should move towards a title that's something like "2011 Palestinian protests".

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I'm not sure about whether and how to include the A-I conflict. I see this source

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of protesters must be mentioned somewhere. Or at least mention this is what IDF

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I'm adding a neutrality tag because there are a plethora of issues in question:

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No, you're wrong. Israeli troops killed the Syrians to harvest their organs for

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Day to Mark the Departure and Expulsion of Jews from the Arab Countries and Iran

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seminars? Is rock-throwing considered non-violent? If so, whose POV is that? --

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I showed several sources above that uses Naksa/Nakba protests/demonstrations:

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seperate article. I suggest we change the status and revert it if necessary.

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Protests continue on the border at Golan, 23 killed yesterday by Israeli fire

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Protests continue on the border at Golan, 23 killed yesterday by Israeli fire

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Are there any reliable sources using this "accurate name and neutral name"?

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These and other issues must be addressed. Dubious article in many respects.

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Back to the subject at hand, where the protestors were, the HRW report

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stay. "2011 Nakba and Naksa days demonstrations" is more accurate. --

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Israeli military's killing of Nakba protesters must be investigated

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I've answered this below in the section "Part of the Arab spring?"

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I'd give both the lowball and the highball, that sounds good. --

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Why is this considered major enough news to go on the front page?

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I presume that's just vandalism, the link should be included. --

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it is "Israels border" is basically saying that Golan is Israel.

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Where exactly were events involving Syrian-based demonstrators?

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I'm using hundreds based on the sources cited in the article.

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Wasn't the trench on the far side of the border fence? --

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