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31: 171:"Articles or other media raised to any other status (featured or good) must have also been nominated and passed/promoted during the individual round." Does that mean to say that, if I nominate an article I've written for GA/FA in Round 1 and it only passes in Round 2, that the contribution doesn't count for anything? (Since it doesn't slot into either round perfectly.) That'd be a bit of a blow. — 3264:. Always was, even if last year it descended into the opposite. It's not hard to write GAs; I'm awful at writing and I got two. Seriously, this contest is to spur up more constructive editing, not to click a few buttons for hours on end. It's not fair on the encyclopedia writers. (Don't get me wrong, Huggle is great, just not what we're looking for. Sorry.) 3099:
rules we could restart with new rules; As I don't make automated edits myself I have no objection to all automated edits being marked as 0.01. Alternatively why not split the competition, at the end of the first three months use the mainspace edits score to judge us all on the WikiGnome contest and the other columns for a "writers cup"?
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I feel I owe all of you an apology for my conduct a few hours ago. Upon finding our that the contest is strictly content-based, and not spread across all areas of contributing, as I originally thought, I should have just withdrawn cordially. Instead, my reaction was far less satisfactory, and totally
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of these FAs/GAs. It's evidently not possible to rate them on a sort of scale (however easier that would make our lives) so iMatthew and I will be counting on you as contestants to only submit articles that you believe to be GA-ready for GAN; possible FAs should go through Peer Review first; and FACs
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Oh ok. I get it now. Submissions promoted after the first round will count for the second round, but only for users who advanced. I just saw an ambiguity, and I'm glad you cleared it up now. Not that I need to rely on those points, as I'll be pwning everyone quite easily :) Can't wait! See you all in
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Hello Sasata, unfortunately there is no waiting list. I sent messages out with information about the cup today. Those messages have been known to remind people about the cup (which often reminds them they will not be active enough)...and they drop out. So there is a chance someone will drop out, but
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I don't think this would be a good idea to implement in the middle of a round, like others have said. Perhaps next round (or year), but I'm guessing there's quite a few people who use this route exclusively. Or, for example, people like me, who instead of focusing on a few articles to get to a high
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I don't see why you guys are flipping out that the rules will be changed "whilst the competition is already being held." It's currently three days in, and nobody except Spencer (I believe) has any points other than Mainspace edits. But many issues are coming up with them. The bot seems to be having
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FAC is for serious hardcore research. It only works when volunteers help to review articles. Those volunteers are attracted to interesting and thoughtful work. I can only image what would happen to FAC reviewers if articles started to show up nominated by participants of this contest eager to gain
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Mainspace edits can mean improvements to articles as well, for example adding references and expanding sections- it's unfair to only reward articles which make it to GA or above. I am improving articles at the moment, but I have no intention of raising them to GA or FA (yet) when my hands are full
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Having watched what havoc Sharkface's Awards Center wrought, I have misgivings about this contest. Sharkface's Awards Center garnered so much interest in the rewards that editors were keen to work together to pass articles that were not high quality, and rush through processes because quantity of
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Three days in and I seem to be leading my group and in fourth place overall, so you don't need automated tools to compete in this contest, but it does help to be stuck at home with a stinking cold. However this is meant to be a fun competition, if some people are not enjoying it with the current
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Just a heads up that I've got some personal issues which may unexpectedly affect my work on wikipedia for an extended period. While right now I'm still going to be pretty active, that could change at a moment's notice, so I am withdrawing. If there's anyone still vying for a spot this is their
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There's a problem if that GA/FA is the difference between advancing to the next round and not. Since the second round starts when the first one ends, and there is no time between rounds, the user who was eliminated would replace the user who initially advanced when the second round has already
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Now that there are exactly 60 entrants, shouldn't entry be closed to new contestants? Just to keep things a round number that is easy to work with? Sorry if I missed something if it's already closed; I'm on vacation and only hop on Knowledge for a few minutes every other day or so.
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If someone wants, I can drop out. I only entered because of silliness. I will be dragging behind and I don't like medals or anything. Its a thing for the young anyway. Garden, if you would like to contact me and see if I should be replaced with someone, please do. Just an offer.
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I agree, this is meant to be a content competition, and will hopefully encourage a higher quality of articles produced. Mainspace edits are a little hard for the bot too, so some automated edits that would usually be worth less, are worth the same as normal unautomated edits.
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Main space edits, by their very nature, would count the same if someone made a little change or added a lot of k at a time. As someone who does the latter, I say "good riddance". Now, if we could only get rid of featured picture, featured lists, and featured sounds. : )
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This is becoming an un-needed problem. The mainspace edits are bringing up many problems and my opinion is that we should just boot them and stick to the article writing/improvement concept. I'd first just like to see what you guys think about it. All opinions welcome.
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Okay, from what I understand, you can only get points for articles that you worked on and placed up at GAN and FAC that passed during the first round. So you can't get points for articles that you placed up before the cup began but passed after the new year, is that
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I went to check the page statistics of an article earlier using the supplied tool. I entered 'en-wikipedia' and typed in the article name, then I clicked next, and then the words 'internal server error' came up. It said to report it to the creator, but he's on the
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The rules state that if anyone drops out, place will not be taken. However, as the original closing date, and starting date is midnight January it might be a possibility people can take withdrawn places. A member of the team might be able to answer this better.
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It's not the middle of the round, out of 90 days in the round, only 3 have gone by. No big deal. Many are planning on getting by the first round by making many automated edits and no article writing. We need to stick to the basic concept of this competition.
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awards was more important to them than the quality of the individual article. However, I do not wish to urinate on the parade prematurely. Allow me to say to those who do not already know that should any participants consider bringing an article to
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All edits that are minor will be 0.01 points, however you will not get disqualified if you change your Twinkle, AWB, Rollback, etc. to be a regular edit. You will be disqualified if you change your Huggle edits to regular instead of minor.
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Be warned, though, history isn't always the best indicator. In some cases the nominator doesn't always have the most edits, but perhaps their edits still added a lot. Happens to me a few times, even for some articles that I have at FAC.
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trying to write one good article. What's the point of me competing if I just get 30 points for the finished article, when I should get more for each improvement I make? Can't the bot ignore all automated edits? That would be good.
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To submit an article for points, I have to link to the statistics page for the article. However, the tool given does not give each article its own URL, so the URL always goes to the tool home page. Is there any way around this?
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First off, this looks like a great idea for provoking mainspace edits! My question: Why is there no special points awarded for starting a new article either from a redlink or a redirect? When you look at things like
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I agree with removing mainspace counts. The point of this competition is to massively increase WP's stock of Good- and Featured-class content. I'll run a separate WikiGnomeCup halfway through the year, how's that?:P
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in this contest. And any user who attempts to pass an article at GA or through some other process that may further themselves somehow in this contest should be disqualified immediately and possibly blocked.
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WHAT? Please tell me you guys are kidding! I've just spent a day working really hard on mainspace (and built up a handy lead, if I say so myself) and now it's moot? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! *cries in corner*
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Please don't change the rules whilst the competition is going on. If you don't want gnomes like me in your next competition then advertise in advance that you are not counting mainspace edits.
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Yeah good luck everyone, I too have nominated some GA's. And I got a question why do the standings say everyone (but me, cause I have 1 mainspace point) has 225 points. Is that a bot glitch?--
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This should be changed next year because I joined it this year due to mainspace edits not because of quality articles, not that I am incapable of doing them, but my time is limited right now.
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Sounds good to me. Having articles go through other processes also helps in determining the quality work; it's hard to gauge the quality of mainspace edits when comparing one to another.
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Sorry guys, but it appears now that I could be substantially less active in some upcoming months, due to school and some other conflicts. I'm going to have to withdraw. Once again sorry.
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If two people work on the same article to get it to featured or good article status, then how is the credit given? Do both get the same points or are the points divided?
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Please add my name to the "waiting list" (if there is one) if anyone drops out between now and the start... I mistakenly assumed the registration was open until Dec 31.
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How about just writing a template that links to the correct diff and history? The only arguments that a person would have to enter is the oldid and the article's name.
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Make mainspace edits worth 0.01 and disqualify any huggle edits. I make plenty of mainspace edits outside of vandal patrol which count as improvement of content.
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The blame here is all on iMatthew and I. Such a large rule change was definitely not the best course of action, and your reaction was perhaps called for.
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Keep mainspace, and get rid of Featured Sound, and Picture cause not everyone is a sound recorder or picture taker, while everyone can edit in mainspace.--
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No there needed, just look at how many are currently doing mainspace edits, so please don't remove them from counting. Maybe next year's competiton.--
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The dates are january to march... but is the period only January and February, or does the round go through March ending on he 31st or whatever?
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I see the format we will need to put our submissions in. Does it mean we will need to add every single diff of the edits we made on the page?
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No, as the article counts for round 2. If you're not in that round you can't score. That's your fault for nominating the article too slow :P
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Diligent terrier has taken a huge wikibreak. Is he active? if not, then I'll gladly take his place representing Great Britain (I'm English/
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Is it necessary to keep it? That MFD was created by someone who has now been found as a sock, and IMHO, the banner is kind of unneeded.
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I take it they don't get you any points, since they're not listed. Is it too late to get them added? (I've been working pretty hard on
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if anyone wants to stand-in for early (read, this week) drop-outs due to the unfortunate changes in rules. I've added you, Steven :D
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I suspect I know the answer to this, but am I correct in assuming that deleted mainspace contributions won't get counted by the bot?
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should not be stepping stones. Come on, it's a competition but really it should purely be a content drive. Please, please, please do
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Agreed. In general, I support removing the mainspace points, but it would be troublesome to remove them in the middle of a round. –
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I agree we should have made this decision prior, but neither of us thought it would be as big of an issue as it turned out to be.
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I know Huggle is 0.01 points/edit, but what about AWB? I probably won't use it any more than normal, but I'm just curious.
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I may go so far to suggest that if participants nominate articles at FAC that are clearly underpar in quality, they should
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two people have already asked for spots...so there will be competition to get the last spot if it becomes available... :-)
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In my opinion, that was the best decision- it will allow users who improve articles but not to GA or above to get credit.
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I don't have Huggle, nor do I know what it is other than some program thing, also onmly a few of them were minor edits.--
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Myself, Garden, and ST47 are talking in a private conversation right now. We'll let you know the result when we're done.
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I want to withdraw. I feel I'm not experienced enough and am not up to the standard of the other contestants in my pool.
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That would be me, then. (In case anyone is wondering about the flag, My maternal grandfather's family are from Hungary.
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Will the selection of the six groups of five in stage 2 be random or by seeding based on the scores in the first round?
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or the most requested articles, you realize that just creating a decent article with a few references is a big help.
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That's strange - I thought that mainspace edits got 0.1 points except for minor ones which only get 0.01 points.
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64 wouldn't be that hard to work with. Halfing it each times means 64...32..16...8...4..2..1 Just a thought.--
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Don't change it in the middle of a round, it'd be very abrupt. My suggestion is to wait until the 2nd round.
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AWB, Huggle, and Twinkle edits will not be counted. The bot is able to pick those edits up and discount them.
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Also, I just added myself to the list of participants, so if I could be added to a pool that would be great.
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trouble figuring out the way the points split. It's confusing and stressful trying to keep track of it all.
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I think we should keep them for the first round; I don't like changing the rules after the contest starts.
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Knowledge, so I thought reporting it here would be the next best thing. Is this happening to anyone else?
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Nevermind, someone already joined. So unless someone else drops out you'll have to wait till next year.--
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I like my 10 points there, but to reask the question that Fury asked, when will the scores be updated
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Heebiejeebieclub, by the looks of it, mainspace edits are counted at 0.1 points each, as it should.
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If there's an additional opening after LOTRules, I'd like to throw my hat into the ring as well.--
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Damn it! I've never heard of this before. I miss a wikicup year out now...oh God this is painful.
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Well it's not fair to just hand it over. The spot will be given to the first person who goes to
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the place to get a list of things to fix in the article in order to have it promoted as an FA.
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I bet he's totally facepalming right now about getting Lockdown to FA over the last few days.
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Look, to all Hugglers who "can't write articles" and only joined for the Huggling - this is a
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Chill out, he never said he definately wants to give it up. Ottava - I'll talk to you on IRC.
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At least you don't have to spend so much time increasing your mainspace count anymore, then.
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That's what I thought but just wanted to make sure before I had too many edits to catch up.--
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It's just mainspace. Getting into portals and images and everything is just going to far in.
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Like we say here in DC, "Blown" :D Its okay Will, you can always get Bound for Glory man.--
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Bah, but Julian is all storms and such. This was my chance to beat a fellow video gamer :P
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Nah, the diffs aren't required, thinking about it. It'd be easier to look at the history.
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In any case, aren't people receiving 1 point per mainspace edit, instead of 0.1 points? --
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No, the bot will count your mainspace edits. It will not count edits marked as minor.
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If anyone drops put in the coming days, I'd be more than willing to take their spot.--
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Sweet moses, it must be Christmas! I compliment you on making that tough decision.--
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That's good. I thought I had done enough mainspace edits to have more than 1 point!
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So only Huggle edits need to be marked as minor, and all other "assisted" edits...?
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try to shortcut your way to the top of your group, for Knowledge's sake. Thanks.
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If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the
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We don't have to type in the mainspace edits at the submissions page right?--
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This is sorta like the GA for images. Should it deserve any points (10-15?)?
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How often will the bot be recalculating scores, and when does that begin?
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So, as it is now started, can I join? He was the last in the queue AFAIK
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Shouldn't you also have written the update to the ITN article, like DYK?
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Fine, but then we'd have to get every tropical cyclone article to FA. –
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Man guys, have some patience. He is away right now, he'll do it soon.
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uncalled for. I would like to make a public apology for what I did.
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So am I alright to jump in? (This wouldn't be hard to swap, surely?)
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Are they the scores as of the start off today? Or more test edits?
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in his place, but I guess I can do that without the contest too :P
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the history for the page I'm currently working on, for instance.
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They all are - I just realised I was looking in the wrong place.
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I've created a little "waiting list" under the participant list
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Agree with Gary, probably will be recalculated in 7 minutes.--
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I'm assuming they will be recalculated every day at 0:00 UTC.
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I already have a couple nominations up. :) Good luck to all, –
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If that suggestion puts me in the lead, I'm all for it! ;).
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I think Iamawesome has first dibs on any available spot. //
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FT/GT are already covered; portals aren't as far as I know.
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I'll let you know if anyone drops out before January 5,
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Is it UTC New Year (i.e. now) or some crazy US version?
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That's weird literally ten minutes ago it had scores.--
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So when will we actually see the scoreboards updated?
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Thanks, but the problem's fixed now. I meant the one
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Nah Garden, I suggested it - you say "too late"! :P
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Never mind. I see that it's already well under way.
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Let Garden or I know if any problems arise. Thanks,
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Let's all go get tropical cyclone articles to GA! –
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Major edits are still 0.1 and minor are still 0.01.
2655:I agree with ayematthew, they should be removed. — 2236:Sorry to hear it! I do have a replacement. Sorry, 3391:points by sacrificing work and reviewers' time. 1150:Hm, yeah, he hasn't edited since September 2008. 311:Both of you will get the full amount of points. 1051:If you remove him from the page, they will come 2434:Yeah, that's weird, wonder when they update.-- 1678: 1671: 1664: 916: 909: 902: 814: 807: 800: 962:You're right and there's no way around it.... 192:I'd count that for round 2. Don't worry :D 3243:That sounds like a great decision to me. 1280:Nope, sorry. I've replied on my talk page. 68:recently). The same goes for FTs and GTs. 3314:LOL Julian! How about we get every single 2517:Removing mainspace (major and minor edits) 604:Probably best to ignore it like A-class. 3858:In short, the extinction of vandalism. 2956:Just remove them. Its an unneeded error. 3394:Call me the Grinch. I'm just no fun. -- 3149:Alright, we've gotten two conclusions: 2255:I'm sorry too, it was my chance to put 1238:Well spank my ass and call me Judy. // 873:which gives you the stats for any page 14: 44:Do not edit the contents of this page. 773:I don't believe that is decided yet. 1995:Are we looking at the same page? At 25: 1456:) was doing some testing earlier. – 568:Knowledge:Valued picture candidates 23: 3153:Mainspace edits will still count. 900:, but now it works, so it's fine. 24: 3932: 3699: 3695: 3464:Knowledge:Missing mammal species 2597: 2593: 2421: 2417: 2350: 2346: 2270:Oh well, I've still got Julian. 2194:Confusion over minor edits, etc. 2065:← I guess you are talking about 1744: 1740: 1622: 1618: 1265: 1261: 1225: 1221: 1185: 1181: 1136: 1132: 1020: 693:I don't think so, I removed it. 29: 3688: 3232: 3225: 3220: 3215: 2674: 2667: 2662: 2657: 2586: 2410: 2339: 1733: 1711:User:Garden/WikiCup/Contestants 1611: 1610:So, who's next in line for it? 1420:It says 0 points for everyone. 1254: 1214: 1174: 628:User:Garden/WikiCup/Submissions 589:That page looks kinda dead... – 337:User:Garden/WikiCup/Submissions 3891: 3886: 3881: 3583:Yeah, blame iMatt for that :P 3112: 3107: 3102: 2816: 2811: 2806: 1911: 1906: 1901: 1780: 1775: 1770: 886: 881: 876: 762: 757: 752: 207: 172: 13: 1: 3527: 3501: 3293: 3078:status, work on lots (as in, 2913: 2634: 2482: 2435: 2388: 2127: 2069:; it was reverted as a test. 2023: 1974: 1877: 1832: 1506:You're a few weeks too late. 1399: 1234:23:57, 31 December 2008 (UTC) 1209:23:45, 31 December 2008 (UTC) 1194:23:42, 31 December 2008 (UTC) 1169:23:40, 31 December 2008 (UTC) 1145:23:09, 31 December 2008 (UTC) 1106:20:59, 31 December 2008 (UTC) 1086:20:57, 31 December 2008 (UTC) 1065:03:34, 31 December 2008 (UTC) 1045:03:12, 31 December 2008 (UTC) 1025:03:09, 31 December 2008 (UTC) 1006:22:10, 30 December 2008 (UTC) 979:22:04, 30 December 2008 (UTC) 957:13:04, 30 December 2008 (UTC) 923:20:48, 29 December 2008 (UTC) 892:20:57, 28 December 2008 (UTC) 865:20:27, 28 December 2008 (UTC) 839:20:19, 28 December 2008 (UTC) 821:20:10, 28 December 2008 (UTC) 783:22:27, 27 December 2008 (UTC) 768:19:46, 27 December 2008 (UTC) 740:19:36, 27 December 2008 (UTC) 723: 712:13:58, 26 December 2008 (UTC) 688:03:31, 26 December 2008 (UTC) 664:22:53, 25 December 2008 (UTC) 649:20:48, 24 December 2008 (UTC) 614:22:25, 23 December 2008 (UTC) 600:19:40, 23 December 2008 (UTC) 584:17:53, 23 December 2008 (UTC) 555:20:01, 23 December 2008 (UTC) 531:19:40, 23 December 2008 (UTC) 501:16:31, 23 December 2008 (UTC) 482:It's already closed. 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Dendodge
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14:56, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs
14:57, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
Dendodge
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14:58, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs
14:09, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
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14:10, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
97198
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07:46, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
Garden
08:13, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
97198
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08:23, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
Pwnage8
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Garden

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