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seems like an easy feature to add and, if it was a concern, exempt User talk pages from this operation. But I assume that I'm not the only admin who has brought this up here so you must have some explanation for why
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which displays the same template and has a description of "notability guideline for companies and organizations". However it wouldn't hurt to add it if it helps people find the correct entry. Ticket created.
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