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this project as defunct. Then, I would redesign the tip of the day page to be more user friendly and work for quotes as well. I believe that with one project covering both these topics, we can combine the little interest left and bring these projects back. With no opposition, I will probably go a head with this in a week as long as the reamaining tip of the day people are cool with it. If you leave a message here, please ping me as I will not be monitoring the page. To ping me just copy and paste this somewhere in your comment:
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As explained below, the mottoes have been automated, as discussed above. I'm still fine with that as the current selection is ample and appropriate. We do not require activity or busy work for its own sake so the project should be considered to be on standby – waiting until an hour of need, like a
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Please be more specific. What TAFI template or process are you referring to? My proposal is to set up the collection in such a way that the current collection of mottos is displayed one motto per day, over and over again, without human intervention, and without the automated system having to rename
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This project has gone very far south and is pretty much inactive. I am noticing the Tip of the Day is also starting to go down this path. I believe that this project and the tip of the day can both be saved if we merge the two and basically put a quote at the bottom of the tip of the day and mark
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The goals of these two projects are radically different, and we shouldn't burden the current leadership over at totd with this project. Totd is an operational help project, intended to assist people in learning and using
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yes ping doesn't always worik for me either for some reason. Anyway I wrote this before seeing maybe the best thing was for me to help out a bit really, which I was pleased to do. You'd already done most of the work. And it is a good thing to encourage people to get involved. All the best
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I'm very tired and fresh on the scene; my first thoughts are to use the current date to act as the controlling argument in the call to an ordered list of mottos. The result would be a re-cycling of the list ad infinitum. The devil's in the details. I'll apply thought after
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are working. It's using a pseudo database structure of tables to allow us to run queries for more than just the motto of a particular date; we can ask for all the mottos from a particular month of a specific year, or find if a particular motto has been used, or when
1768:. It may be that some mottoes will need maintenance as our features, links and language evolve. The project provides a convenient place for people to raise such issues. If there are few such problems then this is a good thing and we should leave well alone.
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The mottoes have been automated, as discussed above. I'm fine with that as the current selection is ample. We do not require activity or busy work for its own sake so the project should be considered to be on standby – waiting until an hour of need, like a
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Your help would still be appreciated, if you're interested. I've gotten the module up to the point where it'll spit out a 2012 motto for the day. But ... I still haven't really decided on how to set up the master table so that people can add to it etc.
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for the motto being submitted, and if it's not already there, the submission is a neatly templated clicky button, fill out details, save affair. Other editors discuss and tweak until the decision is made, then if declined it gets added to a "declined"
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OMFG, I can't believe there's a separate page for every motto! I'm thinking use a Lua script to process the index page into a data file, manually save the data file in Lua format, then have a Lua script pick one entry out of the file for a given day.
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calling for it from any sensible number of sublists. Personally, I wouldn't make a single 1299 (and potentially rising) list for the template to access; a neat group of 13 subpages with 100 mottos each would be a lot more manageable/expandable
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Honestly I don't understand much of what you're saying above about discussing, declining, etc. the mottos; I thought they were already accepted. Anyway, with the rudimentary picker and the data files I've gone nearly as far as I can with
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with it. The module seems to work in simple cases (see the quote above, which is generated by it), but I don't have specifications so I can't really say that. My notion of what to do with it wasn't as elaborate as Gandt's, however.
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The current templates in use are already semi-automated, to display a random motto when there isn't one for the current date. But when that happens, it's not a daily motto. Going one step further would eliminate this problem.
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The Tip of the day project is alive and well. Note that it has never been run by more than one to three people at a time, though a few more than that pop in from time to time with the odd comment or contribution.
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just displays a random motto. Just like it did in the opening comment of this section. There's no
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subpages this would probably be suffice; it doesn't stop people raising issues on talk pages. –
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What does OMFG mean? (Oh My Fat Gut?)...just kidding. Seriously,
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