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559: 123: 956:"List of places of worship in..." lists, with all the Wiki markup, images, references and everything else (in excess of 120KB!), into the Planning Statement. It was clearly an attempt to demonstrate that other places of worship existed locally; but in the largely rural area in question, the fact that it is irrelevant that churches of an entirely different denomination happen to exist anything up to 20 villages and 40 miles away was apparently lost on them. Needless to say, no acknowledgement of the copying was given. I never did get to photograph the chapel, incidentally ... it was demolished before I could visit the village in question! 130: 150: 720: 110: 1211:
especially our lists of landmarks and historic places. At Knowledge Day NYC I saw an OpenStreetMaps guy explaining something to a Wikipedian and it was too bad the HMDB guy wasn't there to get in on that. Anyway I was busy explaining the birth and childhood of an article to a pair of WP newbies at the moment. Opportunities for collaboration are many, but of course we tend to become too busy playing around with our own insiders.
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is my favorite, it shows him and his schtick much better than any words could, and essentially confirms the facts as stated in Knowledge. Sure there are almost always minor grumbles and fine tuning interpretations, but for the series as a whole, the 14 vs. 15 and "only a great portion of the house"
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Yes, plagiarism of Knowledge has been an ongoing issue for as long as I can remember. Back in the day, I once found a magazine article on a topic I'd written about that was about 50% cribbed from the Knowledge article. It will continue to happen, particularly in non-mainstream sources; the kinds of
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was launched on 8 January 2024, with the goal of placing the first U.S.-manufactured lunar lander on the Moon since the days of the space race. Among the items aboard the unmanned lander was a copy of Knowledge. Alas, Knowledge did not make it to the Moon—the mission was abandoned less than one day
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about the proposed demolition of a disused chapel building which I hadn't yet photographed. I was bemused to find that, as an attempt to justify the point that it was no longer required, the applicant (a housebuilding firm which wanted to buy the site) had copied and pasted the whole of one of my
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Though this reporter is not a lawyer, it appears that plagiarism can be avoided in most, but not all, situations simply by complying with copyright law. Copying Knowledge text into an academic work has long been viewed as possible plagiarism, even if done by university freshmen, as shown in a 2010
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radio. It appeared to me like some middle talent rocker showed up unexpectedly at the studio, and they wanted to do an interview but had done no prep. So just read the Knowledge article and ask if it's true. Somehow I'd love to do a whole on-Wiki series like this, but I have no video production
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Yeah, there's plenty of groups doing small, well-organized scholarly websites with parallels to bits of our Wikimedia sites. I've been corresponding with one of the regional editors of Historic Markers Database about setting up links from Wikidata to their pages and back, and Commons, and ENWP
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I first came to Knowledge because some of my work had been copied onto Knowledge, and I was asked to make some corrections to the Knowledge version. I resolved this by re-licensing my work under Creative Commons, so there was no copyright violation any more. Some people might be curious about
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A while back I spotted an article on a Facebook history interest page that was a direct unattributed copy of a Knowledge article that I had contributed to. I contacted the page admin (who was not the author of the piece) and it was removed. I suspect that (unattributed copying) happens a lot.
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An interesting sidelight to the above story is that Bill Ackman in the same set of tweets also wrote "I also wish I knew how to reach a human being at Knowledge as my Knowledge biography needs correcting, and could be meaningfully improved if there was someone I could speak to."
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who says they have been editing for you from May 2022 through at least October 2023. They have been fairly polite compared to other paid editors, but you might ask them to be a bit less aggressive. They have no special editing rights that other editors do not have.
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community, which now numbers only about 600 people. Where to start? "Wikimedia Community User Group Malaysia (Wikimedia Malaysia) is involved in efforts to preserve the Mendriq language by inputting Mendriq words into online multilingual dictionary
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cited in any paper. Before Business Insider emailed last night, I never thought about this before. And on this point, what was the standard 15 years ago for citing WikiPedia? Was it different then versus now?
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are about as extreme as the "mistakes of fact" get. I only quit putting these videos into articles because I don't really like heavy metal music. The genre goes back - as far as I can tell - to about 2005 on
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Academics who wish to check whether copying text from Knowledge is plagiarism need to check their university policies, but copying text from Knowledge without attribution generally is a violation of the
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Yes, I have gotten in serious trouble a couple of times for copying myself - which I thought was allowed - and it is, but not without noting it in the edit summary. Big fire on head!
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It happens. I remember one time I asked another editor to translate a quote from Turkish so I could put it in an article. They did and I did. Later, I found the exact same words in
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Can one use a definition from an online dictionary or encyclopedia without attribution ? I honestly don’t know the answer. I have never seen WikiPedia or
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The bit about Mendriq is really cool to hear, I think more cross-site integration like that for wikiprojects could go a long way in Wikimedia's future.
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license and copyright law. If you present the words or ideas in Knowledge as if they are your own, this is generally considered to be plagiarism.
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media that we normally consider reliable sources now use better anti-plagiarism software prior to publishing than they did in the "old days".
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article have been given harsh bans or blocks of varying severity. All of them appear to have supported the MEK side of the issue.
339:(11th ed.). Cambridge University Press." Other material is copyrighted by the Knowledge editor who first added it and is licensed 21: 1298: 832: 353:. The same article suggests that "using words did not write is a serious misdeed" if those words are not attributed. The book 113: 681:
Do you want to contribute to "In the media" by writing a story or even just an "in brief" item? Edit our next edition in the
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you can communicate with Wikipedians fairly directly. If you register an account on Knowledge you can write on the talkpage,
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for our next issue I'd be happy to drop off my contact details at your office with my formatting and other requirements. –
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Several commentators at the discussion threads on the platform formerly known as Twitter appear to have confused
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What is plagiarism? Oklahoma Disneyland? Reaching a human being at Knowledge?: Watch out for those space ships!
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If you'd like something more private, you can contact our Volunteer Response Team (VRT) by email at
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to resign after she and three other presidents of major universities testified in a congressional
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plagiarism can be avoided in most, but not all, situations simply by complying with copyright law
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Three tangents: a) I wish there were a way to teach Knowledge readers about the existence of
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faculty for plagiarism, and even questioning whether somebody could plagiarize Knowledge.
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ahead of launch. Unfortunately, Knowledge didn't make it to the Moon this time round.
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reports on efforts to save some of Malaysia's threatened indigenous languages
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What is plagiarism? Oklahoma Disneyland? Reaching a human being at Knowledge?
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How Knowledge is being changed to downgrade Iranian human rights atrocities
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This dispute has a long history with a stop made at ArbCom in the 2021
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It's true! The copyvio tester found almost the entire article on
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I liked Molly's little video-note on "Oxman is not currenlty on
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were globally banned by Wikimedia Foundation office actions.
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who says they were editing on your behalf through 2021, and
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found some of her WP-work in some sort of academic journal.
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You can also continue using declared paid editors such as
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Molly's video is published on YouTube not on X/Twitter.
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received a basic indefinite block for sockpuppetry. –
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