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misprint in the long double horizontal line under the heading on the right side that you've "fixed". The misprint likely existed in the original printing---it's not an artifact introduced in the scan, it's part of the "original work". What motivated to you fix that? In undoing creases, such as with the Utopia, Limited poster, you may be forced to invent details under the crease that likely was but may not have been there. And the color correction certainly involves creative/aesthetic choices. Of course, I agree subjectively that the restored images "look better" to my untrained eye. What's your perspective on what you think you're doing? Are you "restoring the image to how it (may have) actually looked like when it was first produced"? Are there cases where you think you may have made the image look better than it ever has in the past? Do we lose anything by presenting restored images as if they were the original?
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lots of people are talking about using deep-fake-like software to bring dead images to life, and to give them voices and movement. It may be the case that we are entering a new era where static images become a thing of the past, and a new generation arises that expects an old image to speak, read poetry, sing a song, or recite the Gettysburg Address, depending on who they were in history. I think it would be an incredible and worthy endeavor, like the famous videographer who restores old films of cityscapes from a century ago and turns them into 4K videos complete with added sound.
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entertainment. In the near future, 2D images will be perceived as we view cave paintings today. "Why donā€™t they move? Why donā€™t they speak?" kids will say. Thatā€™s where the technology is going. Nobody is going to sit down at a desktop computer to study these things. It will be created as needed and presented as if they are sitting on a chair in front of me. Iā€™m not talking about restoring images, Iā€™m talking about recreating the past. This is already happening, of course. Itā€™s called
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range, so you're speculating. We don't have the sound of a cityscape from a century ago, we're doing it in foley. Used well, it's a powerful tool, but it's not that much different than an actor playing Lincoln in a play. It's not going to be a perfect reconstruction. Further, we don't have a lot of the things of the past. We aren't going to have the noise of twelve
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Avatars aren't some new concept. Having dead people come to life is as old as theatre. There's nothing inherently wrong with them, but, for purposes of an encyclopedia, they're not necessarily any better than theatre. That's not to say there's no educational merit in them, but, by their nature, where
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I would be interested in hearing more about the tech-heavy side of this in a second essay; details about your tools, workflow, and maybe some speculation about where it's all going with the new AI tools increasingly being talked about, and if you've had a chance to play around with them. For example,
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all the time on the encyclopedia and elsewhere (astronomy and maths articles, for example) to show the "extrapolated appearance of something for which the actual appearance is not known or cannot be seen". The same would be true for recreating the past. Philosophically, this argument is just one of
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Put simply, I think a lot of the AI things are interesting, but they're hardly encyclopedic. You're adding details that we don't have - we don't have a recording of Lincoln; old photography had constraints, like a long exposure time, that means that the base expressions are going to not be the full
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May I invite you to wax philosophical about the topic of "image restoration"? Obvious image artifacts aside (coffee stains, creases, etc.), there seems to be a wide latitude in your restorations to "be creative", so to speak. For example, in the Illustrated London News, there's what appears to be a
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educational, but it can also be used to push an agenda. For example, in America, there's a lot of looking to the intent of the founding fathers when interpreting laws. A malicious avatar creator can make sure those founding fathers, or whoever they want, all agree with them on the points they care
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library collections. But then, I suppose it's always going to be somewhere a little unexpected if you checked everywhere you expected. I think this is one of my featured pictures where zooming in is necessary to really tell the work done, but having an image of him that can be safely zoomed in to
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Forgive me, but I think something might have been lost in translation. Iā€™m not talking about animating paintings or photos. Iā€™m talking another bringing dead people back to life and recreating their identities using our sources to inform their avatars, which can then be used for education and
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And sometimes, no one else cares about this fact. So how does one write an article about oneself while not appearing completely vain and self-promotional? Well, one doesn't, but let's do it anyway because it'll be at least a couple years until the next milestone.
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At the same time, we need to be clear about level of knowledge. And some tools aren't ready for primetime. The further we leave the sources, the less accuracy we're going to have. This doesn't mean animating paintings or photos is bad, but it's not good for us.
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purism (or conservatism) versus pluralism (or liberalism), and while the purists will always have their place, technology promotes pluralism by its very nature. You can see this everywhere. The latest example in the news this last week was the reissue of
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You could describe how you got into your field of editing. For example, I got into image restoration through an image that I don't even count as one of my "official" list of featured pictures anymore (I do my official count based on the ones featured on
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Or, alternatively, you could try celebrating the hard work and efforts of others and engage with the subject of the piece. But please, continue to police and gatekeep what other people write instead. Thatā€™s so much more constructiveā€¦
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Why not make a gallery of your favourite restorations, showing off how much work you put into these? For example, you could go to your user page and copy over the conveniently pre-formatted list you made, that shows before and after!
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Was kind of odd, though: I found him in a collection I thought I knew very well already. Which just goes to show you, I suppose. Anyway, he will hopefully be joining many more in the next months and years. See you for Number 700!
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There's a bit of a mess of old account names due to anonymity vs. real names, for a while, shifting over to anonymity after some harassment on here. This was before most of the current policies around that kind of thing were
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It's clearly labeled an "essay". Not sure why you have a problem with it. It just goes to show, people will complain about anything, and when they can't find something to complain about, they will make something up.
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if not that with the tools of the time? But such things are corruptible. There's plenty of examples of people bending famous people's views to support them; A digital avatar is no less capable of being used for an
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But this doesn't make things bad by default. Thucydides isn't bad because he made up speeches in the style of the people he portrayed to try and convey the impact despite not having exact words available.
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One could discuss the thing that pushed you over the top, and how it relates to your history in Knowledge. While I don't talk about it much, I have eight featured articles, my first, from October 2006, was
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So how does one write an article about oneself while not appearing completely vain and self-promotional? Well, one doesn't, but let's do it anyway because it'll be at least a couple years until the next
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article where the criteria are quite rightly nothing to do with the criteria for Wiki-articles. Of course it's right that we can read and celebrate editorial accomplishments of all kinds. More, please!
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It was originally meant to be by someone else interviewing me, but holidays and timeliness proved an issue with availability. It was do this or get very annoyed at an offer being rescinded.
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They should just rename the process something like "Adam Cuerden Memorial Featured Pictures" like how people who donate a lot to a college tend to get halls and buildings named after them.
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records conflict, they're going to have to choose one of the two sides, and that smooths over the roughness of the historical record. They're not bad, they're just not a final word.
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All it takes is not caring about actual facts, or using biased sources to inform your avatar. Or it might get scrubbed of elements. Do parents object to avatars
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Why exactly was this published? I realize this isn't a professional newspaper, but on what planet is it a good idea to have someone write a whole essay about
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is, if anything, harder to find an image of than Gilbert. I mean, I did, he's Featured Picture number 601, but it wasn't easy to find.
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Ah but you ignore the whole accusing me of malice part. Of course. This is the last time I bother with these comment sections.
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about a foot wide or so is probably going to be very helpful to a lot of Gilbert and Sullivan societies out there.
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I had been looking for a high-resolution picture of him for, well, over a decade, probably. I stumbled upon the
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It just goes to show, people will find any method they can to assume bad faith towards others. Shame on you.
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doesn't lose its importance to encouraging the study of African-American history for being based on a novel.
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Because this is a significant milestone worthy of celebrating. Congrats to Adam and their hard work.
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I was originally planning for Ulmar to be my 600th featured picture. However, the vagaries of "Does
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have enough participation for things to pass?" said no, which leads us into our next technique of
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But there's a difference between a primary source and a dramatisation. The latter might well be
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Well, under those grounds, we've been doing that for millennia. What's, say, Aeschulus's
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This seems to touch on issues raised by Viriditas below as well. I'll look forward to it.
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before and after restoration, with a certain amount of degradation from conversion to GIF.
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at a beach, or the squelch of people driving through that much horse shit on the road.
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image, which is also about the time I started to get a bit more confident with colour:
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Sometimes, we all reach milestones in our time at Knowledge. Sometimes you reach 100
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The Six Million FP Man: Okay, six hundred, but either way, the bionic editor speaks.
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really doesn't make it okay. I'm thoroughly disappointed in this month's Signpost.
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By 2009, I was scanning my own books, and doing rather impressive images from
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I think that's probably a whole secondary essay. I'll try to write it up.
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ignores anything I just nominated). It's an illustration to the play
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Option three: Talk about the thing that pushed you over the top
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The point is that the subject wrote the article themselves.
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doesn't cease to be educational for having reenactments.
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It's a good start! But maybe some sort of animation too?
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