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topics up to first-year graduate level, through gradual expansion of material which although accurate, may be "impacted" and short of standard motivating remarks and heuristics". Ozob says that the most important way someone can help is by notifying the project of what is not clear, and feels that good exposition is their biggest problem, not just as a WikiProject but as a profession: "There's hardly any mathematical exposition for the layman anywhere. And that's despite there being some fascinating stuff which can be explained in very elementary terms. ... The WikiProject has an especially big problem with math articles that have applications to the sciences and engineering. Non-mathematicians frequently try to read those articles and end up stymied by thickets of abstraction, because we often discuss modern mathematical methods that are very abstract but very powerful. But sometimes it's our fault; we think like mathematicians, our reliable sources are written by mathematicians, and without meaning to, we sometimes end up writing for mathematicians."
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anytime soon or at all. The main task for this type of articles is to provide accurate references; here steady progress is made. From my personal experience, such highly specific topics actually tend to be more satisfactory than articles on broader mathematical subjects which require much more expertise to write".
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in 2009. I don't view this as entirely a bad thing. On a site the size of Knowledge, there will naturally be differing visions of what an ideal article should be. One of the strengths of Knowledge is we accommodate such a wide range of topics and writing styles." Charles believes that mathematics is
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CBM does not think the lack of FA nominations as necessarily negative: "It has been said that Knowledge is not a unified work, it's a collection of mostly-independent specialist encyclopedias that share goals and build on each other. Only a few members of the mathematics project have been active in
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Geometry guy contributed to the assessment of around 2,000 mathematics articles in 2007, but believes that "doing more than this would require substantial concerted editorial efforts that could be better applied to other goals." David sees assessment as "most useful at the top end, where GA and FA
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Of the 8,850 assessed articles, there are some 4,053 Start-class articles and 3,401 stubs. What is the project doing to advance these articles? For Jakob, many of these short articles just contain a definition of some specific concept, "in which case, it is unlikely that they will get much longer
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CBM's recommendation is for new editors to pick a stub article on a topic that they have some knowledge about, and expand it into something a little longer. For Geometry guy, "The project has done really well in providing references for the expert, but we need to draw more readers in, while also
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We asked what the most pressing needs for WikiProject Mathematics are, and how a new contributor can help. Charles identifies four areas, "better biographies, particularly for mathematicians outside the English-speaking world; connected historical coverage; referencing; and expository work, for
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Although the project has some 8,850 assessed articles, there are actually over 25,400 articles associated with it. We asked how project members keep up with all these, and if there are any plans to assess the other articles. According to CBM, keeping up with such a large number of articles is a
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According to Kiefer, "On Knowledge, mathematical topics present few temptations for editors to engage in point-of-view editing or to make personal attacks; goodwill flows in discussions on exposition (focusing on the public's needs) and scope (applications and generalizations). The cooperative
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WikiProject Mathematics has numerous Featured content. How did the project achieve this and how can other projects work toward this? For Jakob, the project as a whole has an enjoyable, friendly atmosphere: "I found that the usual procedures ensuring a sound article quality such as
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are a good hunting ground for articles in severe need of improvement. For the rest, I'd rather spend my editing time improving article space rather than trying to decide whether an article is really B or C class and exactly how important it is".
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different when it comes to featured content, "the FA criteria don't fit that well with what survey articles in the subject typically try to do, and we are still wrestling with the consequences for exposition. It isn't easy".
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Kiefer suggests that mathematics instructors should consider donating lecture-notes to appropriate articles. "More generally, graphical donations enliven articles and increase their appeal. Instructors in
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defending the importance of specialist content to the encyclopedia. Mathematics is a stark example of this tension, but not the only one: I heartily recommend the essay
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and Good article nomination, work well. On the other hand, most members of WikiProject Mathematics don't seem to focus on working on recognized content. For example,
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daunting task, "Fortunately, some of the original members of the project set up useful bots that index our articles automatically. The
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atmosphere in Knowledge is similar to that in the world of mathematics, and more generally, in mathematical sciences such as
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became involved because he "found the idea of a public, comprehensive, free reference of that sort, very exciting".
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status provide recognition to excellent articles and at the bottom end, where the lists of stubs and
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Submit your project's news and announcements for next week's WikiProject Report at the Signpost's
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next week with a classic project. Until then, let our previous work serenade you in the
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was invited to join the project in 2007, and became involved in assessment and review;
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at Wikimedia Outreach. You can help improve the account creation process for new users.
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should encourage their students to contribute, perhaps for course projects. Maybe the
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should give a special award recognizing the graphical donations by David Eppstein,
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performing a simple rotation about a plane which bisects the figure, is one of
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is a professional mathematician who joined in 2008 and has a soft spot for
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Great interview, with some interesting perspectives on technicality. —
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has been on Knowledge since 2003, and has a doctorate in mathematics;
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nominating articles for FA status; the most recent promotion was
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are maintained by a bot, and these lists are used to create
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machine, used in World War II to encrypt very high-level
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could use some help with their current collaboration:
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