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370:", who would have been "the Wikimedia Foundation's chief representative in India". Newstead did not mention the previous job title or explain the modifications, except to note in the FAQ that the new position was as consultant rather than a staffer, partly because "we want to keep our options open in regards to the potential structure of future Wikimedia Foundation operations in India". It is likely that concerns about such a director's exposure to legal liability for Wikimedia content may have played a role. Asked in the IRC office hour about "the strategy we have for dealing with legal issues in India", Newstead emphasized that the Indian chapter and "Hisham, who is an independent contractor, have NO control over Wikimedia content as organizations." Discussing such concerns further, he advised the Indian chapter to get a good legal counsel, and align with organizations like the 466: 211:"). Indicating an explanation for how the same topic made it to the paper's front page, Sue Gardner recounted how last month she and Moka Pantages (the Foundation's Global Communications Manager) had "used the occasion of Knowledge’s 10th anniversary to have an off-the-record lunch with New York Times staff", talking with them about Knowledge's gender gap. Summarizing the state two and a half weeks later, she said: "e've leveraged Knowledge's visibility to develop public awareness of the gender gap, resulting in a flurry of decentralized activity in expected and unexpected forums, brainstorming potential solutions". 90: 293:"), where she noted that "we’re the only major site that doesn’t treat controversial material – e.g., sexually-explicit imagery, violent imagery, culturally offensive imagery – differently from everything else", and that the Board of Trustees had aimed "to probe into whether that was helping or hurting our effectiveness at fulfilling our mission" at its October 2010 meeting. On that occasion, the 2010 Wikimedia Study of Controversial Content was presented, commissioned by the Foundation after widespread debates over the deletion of sexual images. It had been expected that the Board would adopt its 752:. (I am assuming that Hisham and the other applicants that you were referring to in your explanations originally applied for the National Director job opening - if I'm wrong about that and there was indeed a job opening published for the position in its current form, please correct me.) I had planned to ask you for comment about this, but I wasn't able to attend the IRC office hour on the topic, and didn't get around to contact you directly before writing the story. I'll try to do so next time in a similar situation. In the meantime, considering that we 555: 117: 107: 462:(the US court case on which Dcoetzee's uploads and the use of countless other artwork reproductions on Wikimedia projects rely), has been visiting Wikimedia GLAM events. She is in contact with Wikimedia Deutschland's Mathias Schindler about possible collaborations – "despite differing views about some questions of copyright" – where the chapter is aiming for the release of digital reproductions of public domain works. 33: 127: 87: 137: 167: 97: 196:), and revealed that the Foundation had actively sought it out, based on the insight that the gender-gap problem is complicated because "solutions don’t lie entirely within the Knowledge editorial community, because important voices are missing there. We knew we would need to bring in voices from outside, and support them in making themselves heard." 736:. Sorry about not replying earlier and thanks for the useful clarification. The sentence in the story that you are referring to (which was clearly marked as an educated guess) was not just about the consultant vs. employee question, but also about dropping "the Wikimedia Foundation's chief representative in India" language. 697:
Jimbo didn't "overturn" anything. He reverted the action as a normal editor. The essay was and remains a pointy rant about a single content dispute, and in no way encapsulates a meaningful debate on a bigger picture issue. The definition of "hardcore" used is contrived so as to only include images
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Thank you. This is as good a place as any to make my point: "At the lunch, we talked with them about our gender gap. We knew it would stimulate a big, public conversation. And it did: immediately after the story was published, we were flooded with media inquiries and offers of help." Sounds like it
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that would enable users to block content they find offensive, for themselves only. However, no actual development of such features would commence without a request from the Board. Two of the original group members, Jan-Bart de Vreede and Kat Walsh, had stepped down and were replaced by Matt Halprin,
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The graph on the history of the Swedish article on Michael Jackson is quite striking, but for a graph to be useful, people need to have a key, or some way of understanding what the graph means. After a bit of searching, I can now guess that the colors represent the amount of content contributed by
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last week, sorting possible "product-focused" development efforts by the WMF into four categories of differing priority ("Great Movement Projects", "Strategic Opportunities", "Frontier Projects", and "Red Links"). For the top category, it nominated the development of a rich-text editing interface,
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Please note that the decision regarding the appointment of a consultant rather than an employee was unrelated to the discussion about legal liabilities on the IRC chat. WMF didn't change our position on consultant vs. employee due to a heighten concern over legal liability. We have always been
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What proportion of Usernames are visibly gender related (possibly also comparing different languages) - and what is the equivalent for other areas of the Wikiverse? WP is not an obvious first choice for looking for adult material per se (as distinct from 'what does this weird term mean?).
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a "consultant for National Programs, India", whose role will be "to design and implement specific pilot programs that encourage many more Indians to become contributors to our projects in Indic languages as well as English." The new position is being filled by Hisham Mundol, who worked on
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the Foundation's India expansion in the Signpost, and that such legal risks are relevant for the whole community (which could soon be faced with the new situation that editorial decisions on Knowledge might expose someone like Hisham to a personal risk), a question about your recent
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and improvement of "the −1 to 100 edit experience" (which might include "welcoming strategies, user account creation as a key vector mentoring programs, changes to policies, procedures and implementations"). In related news, the Outreach team's "Account Creation Improvement Project"
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There is of course nothing wrong with the Foundation changing job descriptions between putting out the ad and doing the actual hire. However, in previous cases where this happened, the original job description was mentioned and the change was explained (examples include
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The "gender gap" discussion about the low rates of participation of women in Knowledge continued last week, and extended to overlap with another much-debated topic where the Wikimedia Foundation has been pondering changes: controversial content (sexual images).
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by George Herbert and herself to women editors: whether they had "come across explicit material on the Wikimedia projects that... offensive, degrading or discouraging". This was triggered by a current debate on the English Knowledge about an essay by
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that "I have had some informal conversations about legal questions and WMF's new General Counsel Geoff Brigham has this as a priority as he gets started": Was the original job description from August vetted and endorsed by the then General
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article. It mostly quoted comments made outside Wikimedia sites, with an exception being reason 7 – "Some women find Knowledge culture to be sexual in ways they find off-putting". There, Gardner listed some answers to a question that was
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The announcement by the Wikimedia Foundation's Chief Global Development Officer, Barry Newstead, explained that Mundol is "a newcomer to the Wikimedia movement will be spending the coming weeks (not months!) in learning mode". In an
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concerned about legal liability. We decided that the activities that we need fulfilled at the moment are best done via a consultancy. We might change this perspective as we move forward as we are still learning.Barry Newstead --
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Still, you are raising an interesting point, but there might be more appropriate venues to seek and publish such a clarification (Signpost articles should not be modified significantly after publication without a pressing
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This really demands more explanation or another reference. Was it really "off-the-record"? Or was it "background" or "not for attribution"? There are differences among all these categories. It would certainly be news if
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In 2009, after the presentation of the UNU-MERIT study (whose estimate that only around 13% of Wikipedians are female also formed the basis of the recent debates), Noam Cohen, the author of the recent
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If you want to attract neophytes to edit, don't put them off with in-groupish jargon, that's all I am saying. (It even puts me off, and I have been around for years.) Sincerely,
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Um, didn't the note say "representing each revision by a vertical line and distinguishing the amount of text contributed by each author with different colors"? Regards,
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by Jimmy Wales. Gendergap list members chimed in, such as Knowledge researcher Joseph Reagle, who – somehow reminiscent of Gardner's "bring in voices from outside" –
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recently). It was a bit surprising to see neither here, despite a lot of other information about this hire and the new position, and other were
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which has absolutely no meaning in the English language. The internal link provided does not even go to a definition: Rather it goes
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It is fairly common in Knowledge parlance, though I think it should well have been parenthesised or linked. The correct link is
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that it is starting to test different versions of the "landing page" that greets newbies after they create their account.
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Jimmy Wales and Bishakha Datta. Phoebe said "the board does not yet have a formal position on this whole issue".
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Foundation appoints "consultant for National Programs" in India, following search for National Program Director
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containing the Wikimedia Foundation's mid-year financial report for July to December 2010 has been uploaded.
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that the upload is complete. He added that certain files were deleted or not uploaded because they were
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http://mediadecoder.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/08/12/with-off-the-record-lunch-obama-extends-a-hand/
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acceded to an off-the-record lunch for a Knowledge person but not for one with President Obama (
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for a consultant for National Programs. Instead, the job opening in last August was for a "
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ensued about the batch upload, focusing on the extensive metadata provided by the Museum.
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were uploaded right away by the Museum. Per common practice, the upload was stalled and a
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an individual editor, with the x-axis representing different versions over time.
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on the group's progress was posted by one of its members, Trustee Phoebe Ayers (
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as files which are not yet in the public domain. The upload comprises
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Last November, Gardner herself had already touched on that topic in a
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On 17 February 2011, the Foundation's Executive Director, Sue Gardner
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for the Wikimedia Foundation on the Strategy wiki was completed by
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immediately, but about half of them proved controversial (cf.
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I'll note this has also been discussed on Wikimediaindia-l
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Gender gap and sexual images; India consultant; brief news
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