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may or may not be appropriate. Many beliefs of a religion are disputed by most other religions, and by the irreligious; it is not usually necessary to state this. Thus avoid things like "Buddhists believe in reincarnation as some life-form. This is disputed by most atheists, Christians, Hindus, Jews, Muslims, Zoroastrians, and by adherents to the Australian Dreamtime myths". On the other hand in an article on a Christian denomination it may be appropriate to describe and compare, without need of proof, the beliefs of different denominations about the natures of God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit.
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fringe should not be strictly applied to religious articles. Many belief systems may indeed be far-fetched when compared to other religions, but it is not the position of Knowledge to make any claims against a belief system or to editorialize such. To balance an article that may appear to be fringe, proper sources should be located to support any claims made, and integrated into the article with appropriate references and straight-forward wording. Any statements that are not supported by reliable sources should be removed if no reliable sources can be found to support the statement.
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standards are meant for physically testable or provable things. Religion often has concepts and beliefs that cannot be subjected to proper scientific scrutiny, due to the non-physical or spiritual nature of belief. Therefore an exception to the rule, concerning only this subset of Knowledge, would be convenient for editors to refer to to alleviate personal attacks and stress when editing these articles and on the talk pages associated. The proposal is as follows:
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Articles cannot be written assuming Western Judeo-Christian readers, and therefore should be explained from the perspective of "assume nothing." Readers of Knowledge come from all backgrounds and religions imaginable, so therefore the tone and scope of the article should state things that may not be
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Some beliefs may become conclusively proved or disproved, as, for example, a statue from which water drips, later found to be due to a leaking pipe. The belief that human cannibalism is wrong, although in itself a moral issue not susceptible of proof, is supported by the fact that eating brain tissue
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While many beliefs are by nature neither provable nor disprovable, much evidence has become available either supporting or casting doubt on some beliefs; for example, the belief in divine creation of living things, originally uncontroversial, has come into contradiction with such things as the fossil
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that tend to be quite cyclical. It is perhaps an unfortunate fact that one cannot prove or disprove the existence of Deity or faith or the historical provenance of a particular sacred document. Many good faith attempts have been made by both sides of an issue to explain or disprove a viewpoint, but
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may present his life as though he is a real person, all the while acknowledging the fact that he is a fictitious character. Arguments that may be presented could indeed acknowledge that he may not exist, and be valid. Arguments may be made that, except for the movies and books (under the direction
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within Knowledge simply based on minority status. To the believer it may be viewed as insulting or disturbing that Knowledge take the stance of possibly belittling, or making a mockery, of a person's religious beliefs. Therefore, it is (proposed to be) the policy of Knowledge that the policies on
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The same can be said of any faith. You could argue for or against the existence of Deity, or argue for or against the accounts, the records, or revelations of the Deity or the believers therein, and your argument would be plausible and convincing; but the same statement may be made of believer and
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It is (proposed to be) Knowledge's stance that religious articles should be written to present the viewpoint of the religion and its followers, while making it clear that this is their perspective and that this is not a form of endorsement of any belief system. Knowledge makes no statements for or
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to establish that this is the case) is a fact. The actual belief, unless objectively verifiable and sourced, is not. If there is controversy about a belief and sources to verify it, the controversy is a fact (but the controversial issues are not). Including a controversy in an article on a religion
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It is within the scope of Knowledge to report on various subjects of controversy, but perhaps nothing can ignite an editor's or reader's passions so much as a religious debate. While Knowledge encourages scholarly debate, too often this devolves into a bitter situation where personal attacks and
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It is the purpose of this proposed policy to create a new subset of rules, and interpretations of policies, on Knowledge that apply solely to religious articles, since there are fundamentally different burdens of proof and reliability of sources within the scope of faith and religion. Scientific
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While acknowledging scientific principles of proof and testability, Knowledge also realizes there is a realm where these principles cannot be utilized in the traditional sense. Religion is one of these areas. Too often there is presented an argument against a specific religion, or belief, that
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world religions. This may be a drawback to dissent, but is a necessary balance to keep the sanity of any encyclopedia. Just remember that a "majority" of the world is not Catholic, Orthodox, Protestant, Jewish, Muslim, Hindu, Buddhist, etc. so therefore there is truly no "majority" that exists.
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A detailed debate with arguments, counter-arguments, counter-counter-arguments, etc. is not appropriate and neither the criticisms nor the apologia should focus on minutiae. Readers should be referred to appropriate detailed works in lieu of reproducing the exhaustive details in Knowledge.
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did or said whatever," etc., to the extent that the article becomes wordy just for the sake of staving off critics. So, instead of writing brilliant and engaging prose, editors are relegated to blanket qualify all statements, which can severely affect the readability of an article. One
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All material regarding criticism of religion should be written in a neutral, encyclopedic fashion. Editors who hold a strong personal viewpoint on the subject matter should make a special effort to be neutral and incorporate opposing views.
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amounts to one simple statement: "Prove it." While individuals may have a passionate argument either for or against, the case is usually unprovable (in both directions). This leads to many arguments and the use of many
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Although a following of believers within a certain religion may not number in some cases more than the tens or hundreds, religious articles about them or their beliefs should not be relegated to the realms of
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Religious articles should neutrally convey the viewpoint of the religion. The function of the article is not to convert or change a reader's point of view but to present information. To this end, the use of
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obvious to all readers. This should not be taken to any extreme, as to "dumb down" the article, but since we cannot assume any type of common religious background, deference should be given as such.
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non-believer alike: "Prove it." Since proof is not possible in most circumstances, from either side, the article should show the viewpoint of the religion, while also showing notable dissent.
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Within a religious article, a reliable source as to beliefs may include official or canonized sources, or accounts or writings of leaders or otherwise prominent persons within the religion.
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Minor criticisms must be carefully considered before inclusion as to their notability and provenance and should never be afforded equal weight with more notable and substantial criticisms.
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like "you/your/yours" should be avoided in religion articles. Some quotations may appropriately use the second person dependent upon the context of the article, in accordance with
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Due to the lack of physical verifiability of most religious beliefs, that which is "correct" and "incorrect" with regards to a religious ideology is often relative or tacit (i.e.,
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All critical comments should be thoroughly discussed on talk pages with both adherents and non-adherents participating to achieve the most neutral and fair wording possible.
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the end result is always the same. It is therefore (proposed to be) Knowledge policy that religious articles fall outside of the strict guidelines of verifiability.
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information, editors must assume that no one is correct. Articles should not try to prove or disprove religious theories but merely present them as they are.
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With no disrespect intended toward any religion or belief, the presentation of articles can be akin to what you may find in an "in-universe" article about a
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Not every statement made in a religious article needs to be "qualified." Many articles are so attacked that every sentence becomes "So and so,
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Criticism of religion is an important and diverse area of human discourse. Describing criticisms of religion in Knowledge is appropriate.
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Criticisms should, as a general rule, be incorporated into the primary articles of the subject that they are criticising, thus avoiding
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of the argument or producing evidence against the claim. The process of proving or disproving the claim is thereby sidetracked, and the
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record and molecular biology. These controversies may be relevant, as may active disputes between denominations, groups, or religions.
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in the articles about those texts, since it is mainstream within the context of that religion, criticisms of the texts' origins
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for its implementation was not established within a reasonable period of time. If you want to revive discussion, please use
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Editors who inappropriately attempt to corroborate or debunk a religious theory often utilize the following types of
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is quite sufficient for this purpose. Qualifying statements should exhibit a neutral tone throughout the article.
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All critical material must be accompanied by verifiable citations, all cited sources must be notable.
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attack works by diverting scrutiny away from the subject. An example of this would be to "debunk"
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While the religion's own viewpoint on the origin of its sacred texts is not considered to be
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Religious articles cannot be written from the "majority" perspective, without discrediting
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should be avoided at all costs within the context of a religious article.
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Any criticisms should conform to the relevant Knowledge policies, such as
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is as important during these discussions as anywhere else in Knowledge.
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Articles should present the relevant religious perspective
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making an argument or claim, rather than addressing the
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Index

Knowledge:Manual of Style/Religion
Knowledge:WikiProject Religion
Knowledge:Relevance
failed
Consensus
the talk page
the village pump
logical fallacies
reliable sources
kuru
peacock and weasel
"spiritual"
verifiable
false logic
point
Argumentum ex silentio
pure logic
abductive reasoning
neutral point of view
Argumentum ad ignorantiam
Argumentum ad hominem
Scientology
L. Ron Hubbard
science fiction
bad apples excuse
Osama bin Laden
Islam
fictitious subject
Luke Skywalker
George Lucas

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