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Actually, there should be no problem rendering if the SVG is compressed correctly (and not worry about inconsistent geometry). Speed is not an issue, as the file size never changes when changing resolution. The only con is that a browser may not support it, or an extension may be required to open it.
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I don't really understand the non-NPOV comment re the captions - could you explain? I really think this would be considerably less informative without them, especially for a casual user. In terms of a delist and replace I'd probably suggest just fixing the typo and ensuring websafe fonts. Anything
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despite the coloration I brought up on my previous vote. I fixed the typo flabelate→flabellate, removed the outer border, replaced the titles with Times, and used "SHAPE & ARRANGEMENT" instead of creating another box for it (it would require too much work). I also increased the coloration
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no reason to insist on svg when high resolution png is available. In my opinion, svg is an inferior format that renders with inconsistent geometry, speed, and reliability across platforms. Also, a non serifed font for the small text would look better.
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Before a delist and replace, some concerns should be adressed : the typo on flabellate, and the mix between shape and leaf arrangements. A new group should be added "Leaf arrangements" which would take all the arrangements out of the shape group.
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Unfortunately, it doesn't :-( Unlike the small captions, the titles were converted to from "text" to "path", which is required in order for
Wikimedia to render it. Conversion to path is really unwise, as it makes a huge file size boost.
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Well "like a hand with fingers": all hands have fingers (or at least the majority of the world). How about "Resembles an opened hand" or something similar? I don't want to use "like" as it seems to change the point of view.
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brightness to something more vivid and changed the caption of
Palmate from "like a hand with fingers" to "resembles a hand". I didn't do Shoe's concern about the ordering, but will do if anyone agrees. Anything else?
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Well a hand comes in many forms - open fingers, closed fingers, fist, etc. The idea of palmate is the you have the main part of the leaf like the palm of the hand, with projections off it like the outspread fingers.
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Maybe! I guess I figured since he made the original picture, he'd be the one to go to for an updated version. Feel free to contact the SVG's creator if you think he can make the desired changes.
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In principle you are right, but every browser system that is remotely up to date renders high resolution pngs quickly and without the need for extensions.
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