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66: 450:. Values in the infobox are compared with values reported in literature, and when the values match, the revision is stored in the index for chembox and the index for drugbox, respectively. This is typically done for values that are 'immutable' (e.g., the boiling point of a chemical compound: the boiling point of water under standard conditions is 99.98Β Β°C, and there is no plausible reason to suspect it will change). 553: 535: 632:) when the bot finds the field correct. The first parameter of the template is 'correct', or 'changed', and the box will show a tick or a cross accordingly on CASNo. The second parameter is a field that contains a reference for 'where' the parameter was verified. As we are at the moment verifying all fields against the CAS commonchemistry.org site, the bot replaces XXX with 'CAS' (i.e., 610: 562: 544: 616:, then please check if the value is wrong (in which case, it can just be changed back to the value in the verified revision; the bot will do the rest), or if there is a mistake in the verified revision (if so, it may need an update of the index; if you need help with that, please ask the appropriate wikiproject). 1359:
and this does match. Given the difficulties of transposing a 3D structure to more conventional form it would probably be better to have a more conventional structure as well for compounds like this but I would suggest we avoid removing 3D structures providing it is possible to validate them. I will
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The 677 "inorganics" (neutral compounds without C–C or C–H bonds) have now all been checked. 496 entries gave a perfect match, 74 entries had some sort of problem in the article (often minor and already fixed) and 100 entries had no appropriate corresponding article on Knowledge. A full report will
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I've rechecked Dieldrin, adding the implicit hydrogens to the WP structure and drawing in chemsketch, I also copied the CAS structure exactly and had the program assign stereo labels. They match, which leads me to think my initial verify is OK. It maybe should be noted that while the carbon
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Our approach is to start by checking that the CAS registry number and the structure match with the name. This will be used as a foundation upon which we can build a broader validation effort. Once we have the structure verified, we have the formula, and hence the molar mass, and we can also
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as well as from lists supplied by (CAS number, ChemSpiderID, InChI, UNII, ChEMBL and ChEBI) or downloaded from these websites (KEGG, DrugBank). In the meantime, we are trying to add, update and/or check as a number of other identifiers (InChI, InChIKey) by comparison of the data with the
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will have one CAS# for the D form, another for L, another for "unspecified" and a fourth one for racemic. There would be another four CAS#s for the hydrochloride, four for the (1:1) sulfate, four for the (2:1)sulfate, etc. It is very important that we match the correct form CAS# to our
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mean changing the structures in the chemboxes (our images for inorganics don't always give a clear idea of the structure), but we should insist on the chembox information being correct and not-misleading, and that the full details be available in the article (maybe in a separate image).
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1. the bot 'divides' the fields in two sets, watched and unwatched; all changes are reported, but the watched fields are the ones we really want to take care of, those are the fields that contain hardcore, verifiable data that are very unlikely to change (as the boiling point of
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is following changes to these articles, and is set up to update the infoboxes. When it detects changes to values, it will change parameters in the infobox accordingly. These parameters are used by the template to show what the status of the fields are in the box.
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skeletons look to be the same projection, WP is from above and CAS (turns out to be) from below. If you are still unhappy could you describe your assignment in more detail? I'll try the chemsketch method with Endrin and hopefully we can compare notes
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When a 'better' version of a page comes up, change the number on the page. If there are two revids for the same page, it uses the one closest to the bottom of the index-page (the page gets parsed top to bottom, replacing values if duplicates
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Both the WP page and the CAS are for unspecified stereoisomers however if we follow the naturally occurring rule, should the WP page be changed for the natural isomer and the unspecified CAS be relegated to an
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on such compounds, we should explicitly show the stereochemistry of each chiral centre, which is not the case at present on Endrin and Dieldrin (even if a knowledgeable chemist can figure out what it
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This is very strange, it is trans,trans in the union file and cis,cis in the wikichem file (I have been using the union file to verify CAS numbers). I need to look into this.
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Be aware that CAS uses an unusual system for representing some formulae, which may seem "wrong" to us. These involve describing salts such as sodium nitrate as HNO
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One chiral center is not specified (should be up to match CAS). (probably a result of copying glucose skeleton, in which this atom is not chiral?).
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WP says cis, cis, CAS says trans trans 'linoelaidic acid', the whole world says linoleic acid is 60-33-3 including the spreadsheet and sigma.
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is added. This does not happen yet in the Drugbox (there is no change at present), but we hope to enable a similar system there too, if
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2. The bot regards an empty field as 'unknown'. It will report changes to this field, but will assign a lower 'warning level' to it.
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Yes, there are multiple forms (A, B, C, D, X) and several derivatives, but the difference is in the side chains.
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I have checked Endrin with the same process and it does not match. There is an older version of this image
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One chiral center seems to not match CAS. Are there multiple forms of this? Structure says Kanamycin A.
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We are now beginning to work through the list of "problem articles" found by User:Beetstra, and listed at
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One chiral center seems not to match, multiple forms? a-tocopherol, CAS just says tocopherol.
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CheMoBot adds a template to a _Ref parameter (e.g. for CASNo, CASNo_Ref will be filled with
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57-94-3 and 57-95-4 Structure is messed up in union file. I can't make sense of it.
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at the bottom, and boxes where some of these values are changed are tagged with
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is dimer, CAS is monomer. Is this significant, will CAS have a dimer listed?
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KEGG is marked as incorrect but is correct at current value of C19422.
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validated the inorganics separately, and these can be found in the
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This is a class article, I don't think there should be a chembox.
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CAS is for open chain aldehyde form, is this significant?
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Generic name is now DAB, both 2,2 and 2,3 have articles.
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These will require special treatment: please contact
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Index

Knowledge:WikiProject Chemicals
Knowledge:CHEMVALID
Shortcut
WP:CHEMVAL

WikiProject Chemicals
talk
Chembox
Drugbox
Reactionbox
WikiProject Pharmacology
talk
Main validation page
(talk)
(older page)
Errors/actions flagged via SDF
PDF of errors found via SDF
CheMoBot
Chemicals log
Pharmacology log
Validated chemboxes
Validated drugboxes
Validated chembox Images
Validated drugbox Images
Categories
Chembox, verified fields
Chembox, watched fields
Drugbox, verified fields
Drugbox, watched fields
Reactionbox, verified fields

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