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1264:. The Day of the City is on 21 May, not on May 21. And so on. While not 100% consistent, I think the article clearly leans towards British English, and so that should be retained in the absence of consensus to the contrary. (If you start a discussion on changing the variety, I’ll be neither for nor against it; if others support switching to US English, it’s okay for me, as long as there’s consensus, and the switch is done consequently in the entire article.) —
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