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contemporary 12th century ‘Western’ science was certainly not ‘solid’ and systemically consistent, with such as Averroes struggling with the major contradiction in Aristotelian dynamics between its laws of motion and its dynamical model of celestial motion that predicted it must be infinitely fast, contrary to its assertions otherwise on orbital period. I have never read nor heard of Huff, nor of Gratian of Bologna as I recall, but this claim just comes across as nonsense given science is normally systemically inconsistent.

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cadence; I think I left your meaning intact but you should check my edits to be sure. And let me know if you dislike any of my changes, please! Hope this is helpful -- no one should have to do their own final copy editing, it's virtually impossible to find all of one's own errors. I figure since I spot errors as I read anyway, I can pay my Knowledge rent by fixing odds and ends as I go.

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parallel with this and your ongoing edit war with PalaceGuard008. You know what, I still don't see what "all the fuss is about"; I think spending entire months bickering and fighting about obscure architectural terminology is excessive indeed. I don't think it was right for him to REDIRECT without your consent, but this is really something two mature adults could have handled in a day.--

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Tang's positions in present day Xinjiang, as these tended to shift constantly. Unfortunately I don't have the time to do the research and make another map nowadays, because of the constraints imposed by my work. Although I still dream of a set of standardised maps spanning the entire length of Chinese history on Knowledge, I don't think I'll be the one to fulfill it. Sorry, mate.

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fewer but longer subsections, which is what I think should be done to the Ming Dynasty article. Also there are so many pictures in all sizes and it doesn't look very uniformed, unlike the Song Dynasty article. I am only trying to help and I'm sorry if I can't explain it any better but I just think the article should be more streamlined, like the Song Dynasty article.

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page, behind my back so to speak, that Caisson was the better name, that you were only going on what I wrote before and you inferred that I misled you. That started his #REDIRECT and copy/paste of the zaojing article into Caisson and ultimately, to an Arbitration. Your going behind my back on that

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There are available several Chinese architecture books by authors who are considered authorities on the history of Chinese architecture (and who refer to Needham liberally by the way). And I have spent a great deal of time reading and trying to understand the history of architecture in China, just as

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On the second passage, therefore not only is the same true of European thinkers of the Middle Ages in spite of their lacking a consistent systemic treatment, but why is the measure of progress or achievement in medieval science that of whether or not it was in accordance with modern science, rather

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After reading the Caisson article (which I really didn't before, I only went on Mattise's word that it focuses solely on the Forbidden City) it is plain and obvious as day to see they are the same exact thing, only using English terminology and the exact Chinese terminology. I really don't see what

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Hi again,would you please double check chapter "Gunpowder warfare"? It states:In a battle in 932, the Battle of Langshan Jiang (Wolf Mountain River), the naval fleet of the Wen-Mu King was defeated by Qian Yuanguan because he had used 'fire oil' ('huo you') to burn his fleet. As far as I know, Qian

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If it's a yes, is it alright with you if I included the battle between Wu and LiZicheng instead of just having it say that the Shun army fled Beijing? In my opinion just saying that the Shun army fled would give the impression that they left without a fight. If so I will also add the uncertainty of

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I've begun copyediting the article, although I've only managed the lead section so far. I suggest that you go and take a look--see if it works for you stylistically, if I've accidentally deleted important info, etc. You said in the request that one of the goals was to trim the wording; to that end,

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Protection: based on past experience, that user won't compromise. The current version is the result of much concession from the opposing side, but he never agreed to it in the last round because he was not willing to compromise one step - and as you can see he's come back opposing it again. While I

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It's great to find so much solid information about Chinese math and science history -- much (Western) writing that I read says something along the lines of "Oh, and so & so in China discovered this a few centuries prior, but they don't count because they're Chinese. In Europe...." Then I try

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Wow, you write some really great articles! As I was reading your Shen Kuo article, I happened to notice a small nit. You wrote: "Shen Kuo's children were often upset over this, and prostrated to Lady Zhang to quit this behavior." Did you mean "and prostrated themselves to Lady Zhang, asking her to

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mentions the import of east African slaves by Arab traders during the Tang-Song Dynasties. These slaves were called (along with Southeast Asians) "Kun-lun", a generic term used to classify all dark-skinned people. It says the Tang Chinese believed the African slaves had supernatural strength, were

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which is quite interesting and was planning to start an article on specifically that subject (as the subject intertwines with Chinese history). I was planning on consulting with you. However, since our views are so different on the issue of the respect accorded to Chinese architecture, I will drop

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article and noticed in the past few days, a user have added an extensive (actually humongous) amount of new informations and pictures to the article. Most of the newly added informations are very poorly written (as if wrote by someone with little English skill), and placed poorly. Basically, the

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Hi Eric, good to receive your email. Back when I was at uni, I'd considered making a Tang dynasty map. I think I even started on one, but later I found out that I didn't know enough about the period to make something along the lines of what I did for the Han dynasty. Especially problematic was the

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On the first of these passages, in the first instance it is argued by fallibilist philosophers of science that there is no such thing as sold scientific theory anywhere anytime, all scientific theory being ever fallible, fluid, precarious and even inconsistent speculation. Secondly in particular

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What "reaction" are we talking about here? So far I've expressed mild concern with you changing the article's citations back to the original format. The only thing I've done was note that you've made a few mistakes that need fixing; it's certainly nothing to get upset about, and I fail to see the

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and was not afraid to have them beaten in court for offenses" I'm not sure I understand the connection between the first 3 words and the next few. More generally, can this be ditched altogether? It hardly seems essential information in the context of the history of the entire dynasty? Not sure so

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Well there are just so many subsections, you could always merge some and summarize them. I am very tired right now since it is 2 in the morning so I don't know how to properly explain this, but I think the way you edited the Song Dynasty was absolutely perfect and would be a good model. There are

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Thanks for correcting "gives" to "gifts". I have a nasty habit of thinking about two different things at once while typing and the corrected mistake is the end result. Anyway, I love the new link you added to the CHF thread. Cross-cultural exchanges are some of my favorite subjects to read about.

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This isn't the first time it's happened. Peter zhou, or whatever user name he happens to be using at the moment, is so caught up in the idea that "Zhongguo should be translated as Central Kingdom" that he just wants to get rid of "Middle Kingdom" - which is undue weight bordering on OR given that

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is licenced under the GFDL. Your source states it as "Your book", do you mean a book for which you are the author, or a book that you own. If you are the author, skip to the end of my comment, otherwise doesn't this constitute an image of a 2D work, which i believe in most countries is subject to

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I made a few more copy edits to the Shen Kuo article, and also to your article quoting his work. Some are fixes to typos or other minor errors, others are sentences I reworked after I had had to stop, back up, and reparse. I made changes as minimal as possible, trying to respect your style and

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I had explained to you why the Chinese terminology was important to me. If you don't know what "all the the fuss is about ...", that only means it is not important to you. You are inferring that it is ridiculous that it is important to someone else. Well, it was important enough to generate an

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only a few days before you started bringing it up to scratch, I was a little stressed to have been beaten to it, but I can't say that if I had got there earlier it would have been any better. You will have picked up I'm sure that I have strong views on the politicial settlements of Augustus, but

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Hi Eric, I'm doing an art analysis of "Amorous Meeting in a Room Interior," which has had some considerable roadblocks because I find an enormous lack of information regarding the history of the painting. That's why I was so fascinated by a page on the commons, in which you claimed it might be a

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I refer you back to points 1 and 3 above. I'm happy to discuss with you but not while you're flapping. Calm down and we can talk. In the meantime, I refer you to my user contributions - I've not edited anything Ming related for about 30 hours... if for no other reason, that should show you that

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article and how neat and clean the article looks, mostly because you created separate articles regarding the architecture, culture, economy, history, society, and technology of the Song Dynasty. I suggest that you create separate articles for the Ming Dynasty as well so the page doesn't look so

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earlier, and was dismayed to see that it is a poor-quality image. I know that you have experience in Chinese-related articles and images. Do you know of any higher-resolution images, preferrably of the entire silk? I would like to examine such an image, but I assume it would be in the public

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One last heads-up: I'm going to consider the copyedit request for this article filled and move it to proofreading in a day or two unless you have objections. I also left a similar message on the Talk page, but basically: 1. it's passed FA and (more importantly) 2. it seems to have already been

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I'm not making a new suggestion: perhaps I didn't make myself clear. I'm not suggesting putting all the reference in the body of the article itself—it would soon get overwhelming, & even in the Red Cliffs it rather interrupts the flow of the text. However, I agree that hyperlinking the

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It is too bad that all the world's architecture is subsumed under Western architecture. But I understand that you are a Westerner so most likely that is the way you look at it also. Unlike India, there do not seem to be authentic Chinese on the en Knowledge to globalize Chinese architectural

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I see Daniel Chiswick above had some similar kind of concerns. I have no expertise on the topic, but I'll take a look and see what I can do. In the meantime, why not create the redlink main article? - as you say, it can already be further expanded than what is in the MD article.

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great swimmers, and their black skin was actually a magic black salve that could cure diseases. But Song Chinese later learned they were only scared mortal men who were kidnapped from their homeland and forced to into slavery in China. Only the richest Chinese own these slaves.

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copyright. However the image in question is *very* old, and as such probably not copyright-able by anyone, which means that you can't GFDL it because you don't own it. Perhaps PL is better? Thanks, A somewhat confused (Not A Copyright Lawyer in whatever country you are in)

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No: looking at it again now that the dust has settled, I think you should remove the Cref template—fun though it may be—& replace it with a simple footnote (as with the remaining 211 notes!). Otherwise the question immediately arises: what's so special about this one

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illegal #REDIRECT and copy paste. I wonder how you would feel if an issue that was important to you was treated that way. Judging from your reaction over the citations, I would say you might see what "all the the fuss is about" when it is relevant in your judgment.

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What are you talking about? Now you're simply putting words in my mouth by saying I said "Caisson was the better name". No, that's not what I said at all. After I said there's no difference in the concept between a Caisson and zaojing and that you guys should

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I didn't nominate it. Someone else just picked up on it. When I was doing a lot of India articles I got several of those because the India editors keep their eyes open for possiblilities. Someone must be doing that for China. Do you need any copy editing on

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PS Oh, I see what you've done. I think the wording is fine, but I still think it's out of place to refer to Fairbank & Ebrey in the text here: heck, this is only the 2nd sentence of the article & already they're throwing scholarship at us! My

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This message was placed automatically, and it is possible that the bot is confused and found similarity where none actually exists. If that is the case, you can remove the tag from the article and it would be appreciated if you could drop a note on

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Since your request, this article may have been subject to significant editing and may no longer be a good candidate for copyediting by the League. If you still wish the League to copyedit this article, please review this article against our

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However, most ironically and regrettably, may I raise with you the arguably condescending hypocritical Sinophobic nature of the current Chinese medieval science section, but which I’m sure you do not intend. I quote some current passages:

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Hi, a user raised a good question while this image was shown on the main page: The stamp was taken in 1958 and copyright law in China states that copyrights expire 50 years after the author's death. Do you recall why this image is PD? --

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Thanks for your considered opinion Pericles. I will try to hammer out a consensus with Mattisse because I just don't have the time to run a full merger debate. However, if all else fails, I guess we would have to resort to that. Cheers,

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I noticed that you edited the Cuju page. Do you know of any books that give more detailed descriptions of the game, particularly during the Song Dynasty? The article is undersourced and tends to be a little confusing in certain places.

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OK. Let's start. First up, I'm taking time out from RL for you... I don't normally edit at weekends... so my contributions here may be patchy. Sorry in advance. Right, can we agree that there was no "harm" done by creating the article

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Hope that you do not think I am a pill, but I removed the reference from my Chinese architecture book from the Caisson article as it was used in a way that misrepresents the content. The primary references for the Caisson article are

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and I'd like a section on Asian self-portraiture. I haven't found anything on Knowledge or commons. If my memory serves weren't some zen painters from the 12th to 17th centuries also doing self portrayals as characters? Thanks -

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grammatical aspect of the article is sort of "ruined" and it needs extensive "copy editing" and "clean-up". I've fixed some basic elements already but I was wonder if you could look over it and see what you can fix with it?--

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Because the article's not about the Han Dynasty's collapse, it's about the Battle of Chibi and the article is presented from a 208 point of approach. You've added something that's going to completely confuse casual readers.

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I've tried to delete redundant expressions and combine sentences. As I've also mentioned on the article's talk page, I think there's a fundamental problem with the leading just being far too long and choppy in it's flow.

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Hey Pericles, I was meaning to ask for your opinion on the above issue ^ although it seems that Mattisse got here first. I, too, would like your opinion on the matter, but instead I'll just point out a couple of things:

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Hi Pericles, You stated that the Qing did scare the Shun into submission, and that the latter army fled Beijing. But didn't the Qing battle the Shun army outside the captial? It's known as the battle of ShangHaiGuan.

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If you want to hear my personal preference one last time, I really think that in the 2nd sentence of the lead we don't want to get bogged down in questions of scholarly estimates etc: it would be quite enough to say

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Anyway, I didn't mean to come here to argue, and I know you're knowledgeable and intelligent enough to come to an opinion yourself. If I could trouble you to do so, could you have a read of both articles, especially

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I did with India. If your feeling is that the Oxford English Dictionary is a better source that scholarly books on the subject, then I will remove my sources from articles on the history of Chinese architecture.

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I confess I am surprised that you have no respect for authorities on Chinese architecture and equate them with the Oxford English Dictionary. Caisson is not even a common term in Western architecture as used in

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My question to you is, should I just let the merge go ahead when this request comes up? It seems he and I are the only ones interested. The other editor is continuing to explore ways to get around the MERGE.

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On another note, I've been corresponding with Prof. Brian E. McKnight, author of various scholarly Song Dynasty related works. I can give you his email if you want to ask him some questions. It's up to you.

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Hi, in order to edit educational book for children, please tell me can I use one of your picture image 'Tao Qian'? I couldn't find where I can get a permission. my e-mail adress is <windbach@hotmail.com:

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function (visible in a tab above the article in the default user interface) to rename the article. The previous name will contain a redirect which you can then edit into the correct disambiguation page.

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name is from my ancient Chinese architecture books, that the word was specifically Chinese. Plus, I am in general against merging everything into everything, so that if a person wants to find out what

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No reason for the images - just the best I could do. I was really doing the article for myself and could not find any images (and I look and looked) that applied. I was hoping maybe you would! --

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I'm willing to have a look, but I'm not sure when I'll be able to get to it. It will probably take me a few days. In the future, I'd rather be asked for feedback before it gets to FAC. Cheers. –

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article, but no redirect, thank goodness.) I complained on ANI that this had happened without warning, no MERGE or anything so for now it is reversed. The editor was told that he needs to place

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I thought Kirlston - somehow the K looked good - also I liked the idea of having 4 consonants together R-L-S-T - and sounded Swedish, Danish or Dutch or - Norse-man-ish somehow, (pretty neat).

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You're welcome, I will add the battle of ShanGanLing, the fleeing of Beijing, and the most commonly accepted fate of LiZeCheng. I'll let you do the boring stuff on "cleaning it up".

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article and I like that somebody has finally started to do it, but the article is too long and cluttered which makes it difficult to read. I really liked the way you expanded the

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Hey, PericlesofAthens. I have been busy too. :-\ I'd really like a high-resolution copy of that work, so I'm going to keep on the lookout. Thanks for your help! :-) Cheers,

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so I could keep the article valid and well referenced. Please change the citatin method back to the original method until the change is discussed and consensus reached. Regards,

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Well I was thinking of shortening the article slightly and summarizing so we could create separate articles and go into greater detail, like what you did with the Song Dynasty.

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Hi! I know that you have contributed enormously to articles concerning history of China, and your grammatical and editing skills are quite good as well. I stumble across the

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to be some of the first masters in their martial lineage. Of course, this is only a legend because historical works don't mention Yue learning anything other than archery. --

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Could you send a warning for his vandalism because you are one of the professional contributors in Chinese ralated articles!Thank so much and best wishes to you in 2008!!

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I did indeed see your responses. I've been busy with other stuff, but I've cleared my schedule for some of today, and this article is the first item on the to do list. –

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and Knowledge would not accept an article on Western architecture with that title. It would be merged with coffer or cupola or some other commonly accepted Western term.

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Anyways, it seems you are a, if not the, main contributor to the article, so I thought'd I'd give you a heads-up about the copyediting. Let me know what you think.

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Oh and my user page has been getting frequently vandalised since this thing started again, too. I really don't want to draw connections, but it's hard to resist. --

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over to that article including the refs, I will credit you in the edit summary, or you can write it on the architectural theory page yourself if you want. Regards,

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It was great working with you on the articles we did work together. I am sorry our views are so different regarding how Chinese architecture should be respected.

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to Chinese, it is a really amazing article. I have a small question of note 4, "Needham, Volume 3, 618." and not 5, "Needham, Volume 3, 415-416." Does this means

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article, and I was wondering if I could copy some of your work to fill in the section on the middle ages. Basically I want to use your information about Li Jie,

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I don't know about shipbuilding. For structures, traditional Chinese architecture is as you say, without nails, I firmly believe, from the sources I've read. --

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and your comment “Welcome to the world of Knowledge, where entire centuries of time may be dumbed down and simplified into one egregious statement.”

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Hello PericlesofAthens, I love the work you have done to expand articles regarding Imperial China. I noticed that you recently started expanding the

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Thank you for your comment. I came across the article while reviewing Featured Article Candidates, and hoped my addition would be helpful. Regards,

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try to assume good faith, I have a feeling this won't end until 1) he gets bored and frustrated and leaves, or 2) he gets blocked for sockpuppetry.

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I don't know if you've read this or not, but the article is called "Recent Trends in American Research in Song Dynasty History". Check it out. --

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Judging from your reaction over the citations, I would say you might see what "all the the fuss is about" when it is relevant in your judgment.

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May I suggest the entire first paragraph be deleted as just philosophically misinformed, pace Mr Huff, and this section should instead begin:

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of Ming Dynasty... it's a long article... It makes it difficult or at least time-intensive for me to judge it's general quality as a result.

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translates it as "Middle Kingdom", regardless of the "correctness" of it. We're here to report, not to judge the "correctness" of something.

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Nice to know, yes you are quite ahead, my article editing made slow progress the last couple of months and is likely to continue this way.

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that was going to be part of a series on ancient traditional Chinese architectural terms, much like I did for Indian architectural terms.

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Thank you, I'll be working on this article in the next couple weeks, and will incorporate some of your information supplementing it with

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that being open and assuming the other editor will do the right thing gets an editor nowhere here, as you so aptly demonstrated to me.

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Despite this, Chinese thinkers of the Middle Ages proposed some hypotheses which are in accordance with modern principles of science.

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was what prompted me to comment to you that I would not work with you any more. I have learned from the October experience on the

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detail can be added to the History article that would be inappropriate for the main article? If you agree on that we can continue. --

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ditching arguably less essential material (that should be in a main "History of" article) and also some copyediting. Take a look. --

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When you wish to rename an existing article (for instance, in order to make room for a disambiguation) it is important that you do

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in which I give the word in Chinese characters. Now I have been asked the following question (to which I do not know the answer):

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My minor edit was far from being an improvement to the page, but thanks anyway. I just added the page number as you requested. --

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By the way, I am reading up on China and Chinese architecture! Lots of the books you reference, I can't find however. Regards, --

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Thanks for your documented stub. I don't know this man, but I'll try to translate the english version Shen Kuo. Good job ;)

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This is a quotation from your second comment, sent to PalaceGuard008 only, and not on the article talk page nor to me.

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depicting it during the Sui dynasty. But I'll definitely spend time researching this topic and try to produce a map.

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nothing I would have done would have been as comprehensive as your impressive and sterling work. Congratulations. --

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and copy/pasted the zaojing material into his article, which he then destroyed with your support. I redirected it (

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Hello Pericles. How is everything? I wonder which names of the emperors you are referring to? Please be specific.

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Hi. I've created the History article and am now pruning the history section of the FAC. I'll raise queries here:

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I guess it is routine for you! (Today I have two DYK's! There is someone nominating Chinese articles I think.) --

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I'll finish reading 2nd half of Augustus and the other hopefully later today when I haev a bit of time. cheers,

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there's no need to be jumping up and down. Chill out and I'll talk with you when I can find the time from RL. --

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Yuanguan(钱元瓘) was Wen-Mu King(文穆王), and the guy he defeated was HuaiNan(淮南) Yang Wei(杨渭). I have checked it in

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Made it up. Used it in the internet elsewhere... google search reveals - ummm... around 200 hits or something

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and not the Europeans who visited China in 1081 and 1091. He says the “Rum” mentioned in the records is the

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Good luck with your senior year; Knowledge will keep. I've asked a couple of good editors to have a look.

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In their futile experiments, they did manage to discover new metal alloys, porcelain types, and dyes. “

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The Magical Kunlun and "Devil Slaves": Chinese Perceptions of Dark-skinned People and Africa before 1500

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There seem to be minor disagreements over several small issues. I'm sure we'll sort them out. Thanks! --

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On the third passage, why describe experiments that made important novel discoveries as being futile?

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Science and Civilization in China: Volume 3, the Mathematics and the Sciences of the Heavens and Earth

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I do like reading about Ricci too. This is partly because he was the first westerner to learn of the

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a high quality link? The excerpt is less than 600 words and doesn't really contain anything new. --

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You might want to change that. It appears as though the battle occurred in 220, as opposed to 208.

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I don't get why Mattisse thinks I "copied" dougong into this article, since I wrote the material on

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I want to make a category for the history of Chinese architecture. Do you think it should be called

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before Mattisse went about implementing his view, it only mentions the Forbidden City at one place.

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is that it would be stuck with all the History of ... articles. However, I can always change it. --

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copyedited! Besides, LOCE has a notorious backlog, which I hope to help clear, article by article.

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on track and I need some competent support, so I'm trying to recruit some good editors. Greetings

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says that in Chinese architecture, joinery is defined as "non-structural carpentry" and refers to

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and the OED. He can have it his way but I will remove the incorrect material that he added from

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PS just in case my user name looks unfamiliar, I think the last time I spoke to you I was on my

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I know it's not a official source in any way, but it has the most detailed information on it.

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I haved deleted all Islamic related articles in some articles of Chinese dynasties. I think

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I would like to ask your advice about something. Not too long ago I wrote an article called

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Incorrect to change reference citation method unilaterally without consnsus as you did on

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If you have adequate copy editors I'll skip it — only if you should need help! Regards, --

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Base on what I have read, "Caisson" is just the English translation of the Chinese word "

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quit this behavior" or "and protested to Lady Zhang, asking her to quit this behavior"?

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because there are articles on East Asian topics that have English originated titles or

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PS As it is, you've already quite correctly shown enough scholarly precision in saying

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Estimates for the population in the late Ming era vary from 160 to 200 million people.

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in the lead section. Maybe you can persuade him (if you agree with me, that is!). --

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That's what I figured. Too bad. It is wonderful that you have traveled in China! --

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Thanks! This one I did nominate for DKY and was unexpectedly asked that question. --

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That's a shame. Oh well, I'll try and find someone else who can make a map for it.--

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Awesome! Id like to work with you on the 14th century article if you're up for it.

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See (Fairbank 2006:128) for the lower and (Ebrey 1999:197) for the higher estimate.

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Why is it sometimes spelled 斗栱 and sometimes 斗拱? Is either considered more correct?

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Hello. You are welcome! For a start I looked over at the Japanese Wiki and found

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The kicking techniques of Cuju were supposedly adapted and incorporated into the

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I am requesting you to change the citation method back per Knowledge policy on

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Well done—what wonderful news! Just goes to show that hard work pays off. --

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Reading the appendices of Chinese sources and dictionaries shall be a start.

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P.S. Maybe you could look at this and see if anything strikes you as wrong:

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to track down information on so & so, and often find very little.

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very seriously. It may be deleted soon, unless we can determine the

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Your experience would be very appreciated. :-) Thanks in advance,

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LiZiCheng's final fate, since you seem to agree with this as well.

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had turned into a #REDIRECT and the contents had been emptied into

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Studying for finals and a FA! How can it be? Are you Superman? --

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I have not read it myself, but there is also the journal article

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JSTOR, yes, but I haven't used it. Do you get a lot from there?

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I might have repeated myself there, but it's quite important. --

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Hello, PericlesofAthens. Long-time no-see! :-) I came across

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are fantastic. I don't have any excuse for not using them. -)--

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If you have any questions, please feel free to ask them at the

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of the image. If you know this information, then you can add a

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Many thanks for the Barnstar: I'm flattered & honoured! --

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Hello again PericlesofAthens, I have been researching for the

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the events are described in the novelized account... Thanks!!

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to the 3K era.. but as you said, the main players are there,

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cluttered, and I would be very happy to help you do this.

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I thought you knew everything! (I'm disillusioned now!) --

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PS Love the Chinese pictures on your excellent user page

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than constituting progress in explaining the phenomena ?

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There is a picture of the Chinese word on this web page:

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Unjustified Sinophobia in Science in the Middle Ages ?

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http://www.china-defense.com/history/1644/1644-10.html

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But I want your honest opinion. What do you think? --

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Maybe you have some input, I'm working on the article

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P.S. Do you know if this is correct: zaojing (的博客)? --

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Supposedly there is a working revolving repository at

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Hope you find these constructive criticisms helpful.

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history professor Thomas T. Allsen claims it was the

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in this article months before he created the article

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Err.... not trying to extend the argument... honestly

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In its 692:, is believed to be a partial inspiration for 665:We are ok, found a few, thanks for your note. 868:, that focuses mostly on the Forbidden City. 1866:The Star Raft: China's Encounter With Africa 1616:. I would love to look into this further. -- 1612:. I just added the material to Simon’s page 1461:Image:Fishing in a mountain stream.jpg again 425:Pop! I have replied on my talk page, cheers 2815:On 9 April 2007, you made a request to the 775:Fishing in a mountain stream, by Xu Daoning 3172:by Gratian of Bologna (fl. 12th century). 2768:On 8 July 2007, you made a request to the 2897:Thank you for creating a fine article! — 2879:was updated with a fact from the article 2724:was updated with a fact from the article 1417:Copyediting "Society of the Song Dynasty" 1314:, for your helpful edits, and for adding 130:was updated with a fact from the article 2493:I've done a job on a very small section 579:Category:History of Chinese architecture 447:Again I have replied on my talk. 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Now I am translating 1691:) He also states the "Ta-shih, the 1316:Category:Battles of the Han Dynasty 813:A week or so ago I discovered that 680:Have you ever read the 1930 novel " 508:Do you see any obvious faux pas in 266:Do you know the answer? Regards, -- 23: 2807: 2760: 2144:would be nice. It's your call! -- 1777: 1529:This is an automated message from 1521: 24: 3227: 3170:Concordance and Discordant Canons 2084:Gong hey fat choy to you too. -- 595:The only reason I didn't go with 438:This is the flip side of DYK. -- 2858: 2703: 1230:architecture of the Song Dynasty 254:I wrote a little article called 109: 3159:Talk:Science in the Middle Ages 597:History of Chinese Architecture 2774:Technology of the Song Dynasty 1967:Technology of the Song Dynasty 1965:Thanks a lot. 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Awesome accomplishments!! 2907:04:07, 20 January 2008 (UTC) 2846:03:23, 19 January 2008 (UTC) 2799:00:55, 19 January 2008 (UTC) 2752:11:21, 17 January 2008 (UTC) 2691:09:10, 17 January 2008 (UTC) 2660:05:01, 15 January 2008 (UTC) 2641:03:38, 11 January 2008 (UTC) 2532:Adding more as I find em. -- 2422:20:15, 20 January 2008 (UTC) 2401:11:11, 19 January 2008 (UTC) 2380:11:06, 19 January 2008 (UTC) 2357:11:03, 19 January 2008 (UTC) 2330:12:49, 18 January 2008 (UTC) 2321:(outdent) Looks good now. -- 2306:12:08, 18 January 2008 (UTC) 2190:11:57, 18 January 2008 (UTC) 2153:11:44, 18 January 2008 (UTC) 2119:11:10, 18 January 2008 (UTC) 1911:Hi,Pericles of Athens, I am 1346:Any reason why you consider 1310:Thanks for your comments re 1297:23:37, 9 November 2007 (UTC) 1286:23:04, 9 November 2007 (UTC) 1272:16:13, 7 November 2007 (UTC) 1256:19:49, 3 November 2007 (UTC) 1248:'s book when I do. 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