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160:(...) SmallCat has been part of a guideline since 2006. Originally named "No potential for growth", it was changed after editors were using it to delete categories based purely on numbers. There has been an ongoing desire, never reaching consensus, to apply a strict numerical threshold for SmallCat (jc37 evidence). Use of such numerical thresholds, even if phrased as a "rule of thumb" or similar such phrase, in CFDs is therefore not supported by the guideline. However, reasonable editors can reach differing conclusions about other elements of the guideline, including the potential for growth and whether categories 797:): An unfinished or under-populated category is not a harmless thing. As such, you should establish its purpose and scope clearly, and properly populate and parent it before moving on to do other things. The community would prefer to keep a newly-built house, but if there are not enough items to populate the house with yet, then it's better to merge it back to the old house where the items were fine, and will be fine for the time being. That's also where readers and editors are more likely to find the items for the time being. It saves everyone time while navigating categories. 655:. This is mostly because there are very few items in it, and readers and editors looking for those items are not helped by the fact that those items are put away in a very small, obscure subcategory. That doesn't mean such a category can't be appropriate in the future; it may well be. But for that, there should be a larger number of items in it to have added navigational value. "Very few items" is generally understood to be fewer than 5, but this threshold is not strict. Context should be taken into account. More on that below. 807:
broader scope and meaning that still applies to all items in the nominated category. Merging acknowledges that connection. A reader or editor will probably still be able to find very easily what they are looking for by navigating between the items in the broader category. A category which has been "(up)merged for now" could be re-created in the future if there are enough items (preferably at least 5) within the broader category to merit a subcategory for a more specific subset of items.
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script. (This script didn't exist back in December 2006, but it does now.) That way it can be detected more easily if anyone has been stuffing or ECOOPing a category in order to game the nomination. It may not be possible to prevent all gaming, but it will be easier to detect it. Both "stuffing" (by
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The only requirement for category pages is that parent categories are made explicit on the category page, all other page content can be added later or not all. So the barrier to create or re-create categories is very low. This is confirmed by the fact that in the last few days no less than about 500
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tree which combines "nationality, genre and instrument", and then proceeds with 2 redundant layers, then an under-populated layer with only 3 pages and then a poorly-populated, final subsubsubsubcategory with only 8 pages? Which reader benefits from this detour circus? Which reader is thinking, "I'd
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Sometimes, categories appear to have been created for the sake of categorisation itself, instead of aiding navigation between articles. Usually, this means a well-intentioned but perhaps overly ambitious or optimistic editor is creating a whole category tree that they expect to be fully populated at
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Proponents have claimed its intention is to prevent the deletion or merger of certain important/helpful categories, threatened by arbitrary nominations which fail to consider the consequences (e.g. breaking navigational routes readers and editors are likely to use). If so, the text should make that
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By merging a nominated category into another closely related category (usually merging a category into a parent category, called "upmerging"), the meaningful connection between the items is preserved. It is not deleted or "destroyed", but put into another category space which usually has a somewhat
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Critics have claimed that it can be employed as a pretext to oppose the deletion or merger of any category whatsoever, no matter how unimportant/unhelpful that category is in practice. Concerns of unforeseen consequences are held to be overblown; these are held in check by other policies such as
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was deprecated. All proposals which assume a continued existence or application of SMALLCAT are thus out of date. As of 26 November 2023, WP:MFN still hasn't been approved. So, currently there is no direct replacement of SMALLCAT. Discussions are ongoing on whether WP:MFN should act as a sort of
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was deprecated. All proposals which assume a continued existence or application of SMALLCAT are thus out of date. As of 26 November 2023, WP:MFN still hasn't been approved. So, currently there is no direct replacement of SMALLCAT. Discussions are ongoing on whether WP:MFN should act as a sort of
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Proponents have claimed its intention is to prevent the deletion or merger of certain important/helpful categories, threatened by arbitrary nominations which fail to take into account that the category (tree) has only just been created, and the creator and wider community haven't been given the
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exists in order to continuously help them accomplish that goal. That's because we've decided for technical and practical reasons that anyone should be able to create a category, but not everyone should be able to single-handedly delete, merge, or rename a category. That would cause way too much
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guideline, and has been since it was first developed in December 2006. But it is unclear what it means, why and how this specific wording was developed, and what are good examples. More importantly, there is widespread disagreement whether it is really works to prevent the deletion or merger of
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like to know more about French folk-pop singers, so of course I'm going to type "Category:Musicians by nationality, genre and instrument" into the search bar"? Probably not many. Perhaps someday in the future there might, maybe, possibly, potentially, be at least 5 biographies of
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Critics have claimed that it can be employed as a pretext to oppose the deletion or merger of any category whatsoever, no matter how unimportant/unhelpful that category is in practice, and no matter how long ago the category has been created and remained under-populated.
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have no realistic potential for growth? The place can grow in size, and/or it can acquire a concentration of schools for some reason or another. So how should we objectively determine whether there is realistic potential for growth, and how much growth/how fast growth is
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There has been an ongoing desire, never reaching consensus, to apply a strict numerical threshold for SmallCat (jc37 evidence). Use of such numerical thresholds, even if phrased as a "rule of thumb" or similar such phrase, in CFDs is therefore not supported by the
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Or so went the argument. It also was leading to category "stuffing". As it's not that difficult to find anything anywhere that could maybe fit under a category, just to prevent its deletion. So an indeterminate amount, handled on a case-by-case basis at
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certain important/helpful categories, or that it can be employed as a pretext to oppose the deletion or merger of any category whatsoever, no matter how unimportant/unhelpful that category is. As a result, there is no consensus on how to interpret it,
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A category with very few items may be upmerged to its parent category/categories for now, with no prejudice against re-creation in the future if it can be more properly populated. Historically, many editors used "fewer than 5 articles" as a
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closed as "no consensus", and was thus kept for the time being. The opinions of 4 Wikipedians in 2007 turned out not to be an eternal truth; although no new consensus had been established, the old consensus to delete this category per
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The "large established tree" clause exists so that categorizing editors can add articles to categories without checking beforehand whether that category exists or should exist. Because it is part of an established tree they may
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There is no consensus on whether there should be an explicit cut-off or numerical threshold in order to identify a category as a "Smallcat", or that it should remain an indeterminate amount, handled on a case-by-case basis at
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The pro side is that a numeral threshold would provide an objective means to identify a category as a "Smallcat", which could prevent potentially endless debates on how many items a viable category should have at the very
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a category which does have realistic potential for growth, such as a category for holders of a notable political office, may be kept even if only a small number of its articles actually exist at the present
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don't really help readers and editors navigate between existing articles. The 2nd and 3rd containercat in this example can therefore be upmerged to the (grand)parent containercat. They don't aid navigation
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suggested the monarchy might even come to an end (just like in Nepal in 2008), until a new heir was born in 2006. Elsewhere, a monarchy might be restored after a republic was proclaimed fairly recently.
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Categories help readers and editors of Knowledge navigate easily between pages. For that navigation function to be useful, a category needs to clear on what its purpose and scope is, why the items in it
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convention, but applied to categories instead of articles. If someone starts over and re-creates the category at some point in the future, and can populate it with, say, 20 items, everyone who !voted
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Hypothetically there could be a proposal C to expand the base text by the same (vague) potential for growth clause as currently in SMALLCAT, but that would go entirely against the spirit of MFN.
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is a well-populated complete tree by country. Should there be a few countries with very few articles about rivers then it may make sense to still keep these, so that for new articles editors can
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to populate a category with 5 or more items, those items (articles) have often not been written yet. Editors are advised to write the article(s) first before creating a category to house them in.
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If we are clear to the wider community that CfD regulars have been using five articles as a rule of thumb (i.e., it is the status quo), I think it will receive a good deal of support per
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in the absence of valid arguments, or make a mistake). This has been an informal rule of thumb for many years at CFD in practice, even though it was never formalised, and never part of
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A category with fewer than 5 items may be upmerged to its parent category/categories for now, with no prejudice against re-creation in the future if it can be more properly populated.
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will probably become almost a dead letter, but there is no need to abolish it per se. It might even be improved along the same lines as MFN, with respect to proposals 3, 4, 5, and 6.
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will not object to its re-creation. But there is no guarantee that anyone will re-create this subcategory ever again, nor that there will be a sufficient number of items to do so.
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Proposal B: expand the base text by a large overall accepted sub-categorization scheme clause but with a much better explanation of what this means, for example per the text below
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A category with very few items may be upmerged to its parent category/categories for now, with no prejudice against re-creation in the future if it can be more properly populated.
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A category with very few items may be upmerged to its parent category/categories for now, with no prejudice against re-creation in the future if it can be more properly populated.
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Upmerge for now with no / without prejudice against / objection to re-creation / recreation in the future / at a later stage (if it can be populated with at least 3/5/10 items).
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merge, the double work that is involved with it is negligible. Besides in most cases re-creation will never happen, or it will take many years before it becomes relevant again.
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about completely and permanently undesirable categories. As regularly being added in the nomination, there is no objection to recreate the nominated category in a later stage.
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assumptions. These assumptions had more to do with the limited imagination of certain editors that there could never be more than of , until we found out there actually
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has invoked a lot of examples of categories which supposedly had "no realistic potential for growth" (and therefore deleted), which were actually based on inappropriate
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we can't exclude the possibility that one day she will return from the dead and marry one more husband to meet a hypothetical threshold of 5 items, this is not a very
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To avoid too large categories (after more than 200 items, they won't show up in a single page, because there is no room), subcategories can be created for a more
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In many cases when there would be only a few articles in a category, the articles are already interlinked. In that case categorization does not add any value.
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just to reduce the number of items in a category below 5 in order to enable its upmerging per this criterion "Merge for now". Such behaviour may be considered
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Categories with fewer than five members are usually upmerged into a parent category, in the understanding that it can be recreated in the future if needed
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also shows frequent disagreements over good examples of categories which have no "realistic potential for growth", which were added, but later removed.
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should be exempt assumes there will be political continuity for all of eternity, but that's not a safe assumption. Political offices come and go. When
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does not contain any article that is specific to a single country. An RFC is required to end the status of a fully diffused scheme by this criterion.
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Also for readers it may be confusing to find almost every other sibling category in a tree except for the subcategory that they are looking for.
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because the articles were too small to aid navigation. Now we have come to realize that the beforementioned practice is very different from
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replacement of SMALLCAT, but it seems clear MFN should be further developed first before being approved as a new categorisation guideline.
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For the risk of gaming by "ECOOPing" (emptying categories out of process, either entirely or with the exception of 1 or 2 items), see also
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replacement of SMALLCAT, but it seems clear MFN should be further developed first before being approved as a new categorisation guideline.
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will probably be populated with more than 1 person in the future, but can we be absolutely sure? Not really. In neither case we've got a
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is pertinent here. And so, Upmerging per this criterion of SMALLCAT is a temporary and possibly-but-not-necessarily indefinite measure.
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are for categories that should never exist. However, the "Merge for now" criterion is for categories that don't really aid navigation
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It contains the advice or opinions of one or more Knowledge contributors. This page is not an encyclopedia article, nor is it one of
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User:Nederlandse Leeuw/Examining the phrase a large overall accepted sub-categorization scheme § Disagreements over interpretation
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looks like, and how many items there should be in a category to be exempt, or that this number should remain vague or unspecified.
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Now there is an objection to developing new criteria per se. The unfortunate thing here is that seemingly nobody was aware of it.
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they can be easily interlinked, if only, in a "see also" section. Again, this applies when there are only a few other articles.
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Proposal C: expand the base text by the same large overall accepted sub-categorization scheme clause as currently in SMALLCAT
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in it, and what the relationship is between that category and its parent category/ies and any potential child category/ies.
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Proposal B: expand the base text by a potential for growth clause but with a much better explanation of what this means.
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Certain categories are permanently undesirable. Most criteria for deletion, merging, renaming or splitting mentioned at
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in particular, focus on completely and permanently undesirable categories and have therefore very strict thresholds.
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Favouring a threshold: the lack of a numerical threshold may lead to endless discussions about how small "small" is.
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for unclear reasons. Regardless, it would be a bad example because there is actual scientific disagreement over the
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Knowledge talk:Overcategorization/Small with no potential for growth § Should SmallCat continue to be a guideline
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Several essays (mostly focused on articles) provide more reasons why certain categories shouldn't be created
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Apart from the question whether "singing" is even an "instrument", is it beneficial and practical to have a
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Proposal A: keep the base text and do not include the large overall accepted sub-categorization clause in
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was the edit right after Radiant! initially added the section. Which was then re-written in the next edit
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died in 2011, she will never be able to marry additional husbands to the 4 she had while alive. While per
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some point in the future, but for now they just want to put 1 or 2 articles in a sub-sub-subcategory.
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guideline for serving no apparent useful purpose, in order to prevent obstruction of the CFD process.
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guideline for serving no apparent useful purpose, in order to prevent obstruction of the CFD process.
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in its current state because the tree contains a whole lot of subcategories of 1, 2, 3 or 4 articles.
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A large overall accepted sub-categorization scheme fits at least one of the following conditions:
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diffused scheme for years, with only broad overview articles in the parent category. For example
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by "stuffing" or "ECOOPing". But both can be somewhat mitigated if all CFD regulars install the
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guideline, in order to prevent demolishing a category (tree) which is still under construction.
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These texts are based on how the criterion has often been variously formulated in established
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One example where this might or might not be the case is the following (as of August 2023):
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clear, and explain how it does so, or change the rules in order to actually make it do so.
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guideline as it is, should be amended to be clear and work as intended, or be removed the
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4. Direct cross-linking between articles is sometimes an alternative to categorization
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Proposal A: keep the base text and do not include the potential for growth clause in
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this is not about deletion but about merging (not loosing data) and in contrast to
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to parent categories, i.e. without loss of data. So the effect is far less harmful.
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Presumably the text below can be shorter by quite a bit, after the above addition.
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Readers and editors should just be able to find what they're looking for quickly.
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criterion was developed at CfD without realizing it was new and different.
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be created. At other times, they probably shouldn't, at least
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Knowledge's policies or guidelines
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User talk:Marcocapelle
On 21 October 2023
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User:Marcocapelle
User:Nederlandse Leeuw
User:RevelationDirect
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User:Nederlandse Leeuw/Examining the phrase a large overall accepted sub-categorization scheme § Development
Knowledge:Arbitration/Requests/Case/SmallCat dispute/Proposed decision#SmallCat
WP:SMALLCAT
case law
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WP:SMALLCAT
WP:SMALLCAT
WP:SMALLCAT
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Husbands of Elizabeth Taylor
Elizabeth Taylor
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Catalan-speaking countries
Category:Countries and territories by official language
Andorra

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