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595:...and why its no substitute for wikipedia. Originally Everipedia mirrored (or forked from) wikipedia and consequently shared its hosting cost, but this has perhaps become less useful lately, when the Wikimedia Foundation's funding drives were more successful. Everipedia's potential value was perhaps in adding less notable topics, something wikipedia shouldn't strive for, but which some people would indeed like to see. In 2017, the "trickle of entries" however seemed to "relate almost exclusively to sensational topics". One may assume that many of the less sensational topics will not be updated, and the site may do better by limiting its scope. It has also been described as the "wikipedia for being wrong". 228: 559:, like google knol, allows more than one page per topic, and intends to link up and then rate these related pages in three categories (notability, relativity and reliability). The user defines his/her reality, which is rated afterwards. It is hoped to be free of censorship of content, bias, (left wing) thought police, bureaucracy, harassment, vandalism, outright abuse and inaccurate nightmares. This may be achieved through objectivity, proven game design principles and sophisticated algorithms, the implementation of which will follow a 26: 127: 52: 77: 676: 163: 658:. As importantly, it failed due to lack of focus. Its focus was neither on the topic or on cooperation. Consequently there was no need for authors to find consensus (agreement with co-authors), or if that failed, neutrality, which is part of the contribution ethic on wikipedia. The dynamic was lost. The result of consensus and neutrality is an article that self-corrects and achieves a measure of credibility. 242: 640:
Who will be keeping the virtual cash? For what purposes may that virtual cash be employed to give it economic value in solid currency? b) Someone buys "your block" directly? That means we're back to advertisements, proprietary content and copyright, the content is not free forever, as it always remains liable to be sold and resold. The end user is removed from the system.
563:. While it does not define reality, "facts are facts". "Objectivity" replaces "neutrality", "nice and fair play" rather than "respect and civility" is expected, and its "rules are guidelines, not chew toys for lawyers" while wikipedia has "no firm rules", as these can evolve or be ignored for special cases. 662:
makes the knol mistake again, and perhaps compounds it. As one topic is split into various articles, one can ask where the follow-up user will go to update the topic? And how will his/her update affect the ratings. Verdict: Probably unworkable as it dilutes rather than focuses, and the result will be
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Admittedly the latter rating process is only applied to a small percentage of articles, but how may this be extended to all articles? Who will do the work if few experts are contributing? And why would anyone reward someone else's work if the writer stands to be monetized or be awarded IQ tokens by a
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A rating system (of all articles) is proposed which will be curated "by experts and by the general public". Question: What exactly does this mean? How will the public be distinguished from the experts, or how will such a two-tier result be recombined? If an article is expertly rated, what weight will
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It is proposed that "governance will be determined by the owners of (IQ?) tokens / coins" / virtual currency. Question: Which governance, to govern what? So if there is value here the investors will run the show? An oligarchic voting system, or will investors be happy to be outvoted by anyone with a
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A decentralized system ("Greaterwiki," which would not constitute a community) is proposed that will "enable anyone to use the data about ratings (and raters) creatively." Question: So anyone will be able to take a rating (by anyone) and use that to improve an article? How will that be accomplished,
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does not require notability for subjects, only references. Anything or anyone in the news may receive a page, including a missing person, a criminal on the run, etc., which would likely not meet wikipedia's notability guidelines, and clog its AFD section. This perhaps relieves wikipedia from a large
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It is proposed that articles on the blockchain will be compensated. Question: Compensated by whom? A blockchain is not automatically a virtual currency, or a real currency, so who supplies the money? a) The reader or end user? Then we are moving away from a 💕. Or do we need digital miners as well?
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include the likes of: PieDAO, Connext, dex.blue, Lily Mma: VoteCoin cryptocurrency, xDai Chain, Totle Swap, Idle (DeFi), EOSREX.IO, Centrifuge (DeFi), DeBank, Ethereum Name Service and P2P Validator. This doesn't resemble a general topic encyclopedia, but rather describes private ventures (and read
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The proposed features sound like something as general and decentralized as the internet itself, and the way that it would refocus all the forking of functions and authority to provide something like an encyclopedia is unclear. The end result of the above isn't called an encyclopedia anyway, but "a
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are still neglected. They are often too short or too long, and do not provide a summary of the article. Any new contributors may well dedicate themselves to these, and render a valuable service. The lead is a good place to describe the context of the subject, to give a perspective on how the topic
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A system is proposed that splits and weighs the ratings according to demographic, whether that be "experts with endorsements, French socialists, programmers, women, Christians, Muslims," or other. Question: So each rater/ranker will first have to identify as such? Will anyone care to give so much
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penny or two? And you loose governance when you sell your block (stock?), or do you get governance if your coins from sales stay in the bank? Either way you have to keep one eye on the value of this currency and the other on writing articles. And how are IQ tokens (or blocks) converted to coins?
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From time to time it is claimed that wikipedia's procedures and pillars inhibit the attainment of certain goals, and in response alternative wikis are started. Wales recommends that wikipedia wishes them well but not reposition itself, as wikipedia's passionate volunteers are not concerned with
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Similarly, insufficient thought is given to the application of headers to separate the information into meaningful sections, or to reduce unwieldy lead paragraphs. A dearth of headers also essentially conceals the lack of information in, or the poor treatment of certain subsections.
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peer-to-peer database", with share-holders. How a writer behaves outside a writer community, or whether he/she will receive any cooperation, is likewise unclear. One begins to see why the wikipedia model achieved its measure of success, namely by focusing its functions.
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It is proposed that the rating data must be "tied to carefully-verified real world identities and be open." Question: Then at least the verification will be centralized, and the raters/rankers will have to willingly give personal information to that centralized
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Knowledge exists thanks to donations – the edits and media uploads of registered and unregistered users, and financial contributions by the public. For more information on how donations may be made, see:
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It is proposed that "users and organizations will be enabled to rate each other’s expertise," and "rate sources." Question: Further forks in the rating scheme? Experts on experts? Public rating experts?
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the public rating carry? Why not rather use wikipedia's existing rating system which elevates some articles to featured status, based on "accuracy, neutrality, completeness, and style"?
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A lead introduces you to the subject in a limited number of steps, and is accessible to as many as possible, whatever their angle of incidence. It stops short of specialist details.
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In 2018 Mr Larry Sanger proposed that Everipedia be empowered by blockchain technology, seen as a new avenue for those who want to move beyond what wikipedia can offer.
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is implementing a completely automated, algorithmically generated and machine-learning based process that will produce a free science definition service. See also:
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encourages contributors to state their identity and demonstrate a level of expertise. As of 2016 it is still active, and receives about 20 edits per day.
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allowed more than one article about a subject, and like citizendium, encouraged disclosed authorship. It was discontinued in 2012 after a 5 year run.
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failed in 2011/2012 due to lack of organisation and maintenance, lack of ongoing support, product development or user-generated quality control.
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section of subjects which are not the main concern of an encyclopedia. It is also a fork of wikipedia, and contains all wikipedia's articles.
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It is proposed that there could be "competing rankings" of articles. Question: What is the value of a ranking if each person has his own?
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Many questions can be asked however, concerning its rating/ranking feature, monetary nature and governance structure, for instance:
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Knowledge's contributors may well keep an eye on these alternatives to get an idea of what wikipedia may be doing wrong.
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like advertisements) where the writer is tightly involved with the topic – or is writing about him/herself essentially.
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A few articles from the web are referenced below, which may serve as indicators of wikipedia's successes or failings:
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Some articles to the contrary exist only on a lofty, inaccessible platform that intimidates or excludes newcomers.
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often sparse, biased or just plain wrong, and focused on what preoccupies people. what are the alternatives?
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and why would a writer rely on the rating rather than his or her own prejudices when updating an article?
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information on themselves? And Everipedia will be the centralized authority to keep all of that?
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Knowledge co-founder’s 8,000-word essay on how to build a better Knowledge
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professor sees error, arrogance, obscurity, and nonsense
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User:JMK is very dissatisfied with the neglect of the
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Timmer, 2015
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professors split on wiki debate
...in bibliographies and college curricula
books vs. wikipedia
...acceptance on college campuses
...a professor's best friend
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