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But what if people want the page deleted not because of its content, but because they think the topic is inappropriate for an encyclopedia. (This seems to be the most common cause for deletion these days, and probably the reason the voting system was instituted.) Again, the solution is simple: don't
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But an even better solution is for the admin who would normally protect the page to resolve the dispute. True, Knowledge stays away from value judgments like the plague, but most of these wars I've seen aren't all that hard to resolve. "Can I include plagiarized material?" "Can I insert some obvious
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I once tried to make a list of liberal/progressive organizations, like political groups and charities and such. But people said that they didn't think groups I listed weren't really liberal. I said that there were scientific studies about the values and paradigms behind liberalism and conservatism
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Sure, edit wars are a little annoying and should be discouraged. A better way to do this would be to pin the blame where it belongs: on the warring participants. Most are repeat offenders, and while one may be "right", getting into an edit war is never the right solution. Instead of protecting the
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I once wrote an article about a man who investigated the
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On the whole, Knowledge functions amazingly well. However, there are some policy issues which are some things which are rather broken. As I wander through
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Deleting pages is another major whole in
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and showed how the groups followed from liberalism. People got very upset at this and thought we should only have groups everyone agreed were liberal. This made the list a lot less useful and it ended up getting deleted.
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