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races is a violation of GAMEGUIDE. I'm sure there's probably some better sourcing out there that could expand with secondary coverage, but at this point it needs to build up from bare bones, not try to work downward from what we have now which is far too detailed at a per-game level. Major changes here are needed and unless someone gives reason not to, I'll likely be BOLD in the next few days to start massive trimming here. --
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given the most recent game of the franchise, it is stated that a new race also existed in the Zelda universe the Zonai, although the game depicts them in the time of their near extinction in the past their contributions to the lore of the franchise are significant (given that one of their race Rauru
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notable, as well as some of the races but beyond that, most of this stuff is fan-level cruft that is unsourced save to the games or manuals themselves, and that's simply not sufficient to Knowledge's coverage of fictional topics. Most of the races are simply not notable at all and a list of monster
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In Knowledge:What Knowledge is not it is stated that Knowledge is not a game manual or instruction booklet. I guess it is alright for the plot. But I mean, this looks lake a circular reference: the information in this article about the game comes from the references in the game such as text and the
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which was 100% primary sourced. That won't work today at all, period. You can trim each of those race descriptions down to a paragraph at most, and keep it as part of this article, which then still could be moved to Hyrule, a section being "Races" and the variety of races introduced over the games
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Knowledge is not Wikia and is not under a requirement to list every single parallel world in a Zelda game. What complicates things is that they are not even in the same "universe" since Zelda has multiple timelines and universes. What I am suggesting is that the article focus on Hyrule the
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a rename would allow the article to be categorized under fictional locations while still explaining the mythos and recurring elements. Other game specific worlds like Termina or the Dark World can probably be better explained in their respective articles.
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Since the Bokoblins are already extensively covered in the 'races' section, I'd argue that the Bokoblin description in the 'creatures' section is redundant and should therefore be removed. Does anyone disagree with this?
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making sense alongside the locations section that already exists (A few minute's search shows a few possible means to at least source this). Potentially that races section could be expanded off, but it should be done
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What I think is that this needs a large reversal of all the 2008 merges that made this massive, heavily crufty super-article. This page should be pared down massively and sent back to its original
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with good secondary coverage, not primary. The Recurring enemies, that still I think can be yanked, barring a source search to see if there's anything sourcable to that. --
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and I have to agree with what's being said there. This page is just far too much cruft. The world of Hyrule and elements like the Tri Force and Master Sword
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We would need to find some coverage in the media to add the Zonai.
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