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can be established that a framework - in my opinion and others - is bigger than just a file or 2. API's are framworks. I believe there is no such thing as CSS frameworks for instance. In software development i believe there are more frameworks than in web development, but the distinction is important to help avoid the confusion that all these discussions are about. --
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The difference between a library and a framework is that a framework implements inversion of control (the
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Hi Travb. Your concern about the old definition is warranted. I've replaced it with a definition that is agreed to by the academic community and cited two of their experts (Ralph
Johnson and Dirk Riehle). It is important to describe both the similarities to and differences from code libraries, and
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What is the origin of the term? What was the first framework? Does ANSI, ISO, or any other standards body define the term? A framework is a conceptual or physical structure. That term can be applied to software in a lot of ways. There's no real benefit to trying to create a strict definition of
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I believe it is important not to use the word framework about whatever. Alot of re-usable code for web development isnt a framework simple snippets or some of them libraries. The word should be used with care. I believe it is good to start a topic about "Frameworks compared to libraries" so that it
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When you say "holds the software together" i think you mean "provides a structure into which application specific code is inserted" ... or something like that, yes? Just 'cause "software" is such a general term generally meaning "application" and a framework does not define an application, it just
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It's clear that there really is no steadfast definition of software framework and the authors here are trying to create one as though this article is the source of academic truth. There are no citations that support the actual definition being proposed. For example, it declares that a framework
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Somewhere I found the following distinction between framework and library: Some piece of pre-packaged code is a library if it is designed to be called by your code; it is a framework if it is designed to call your code. Is that an acceptable distinction? If so, it might go into the article, which
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I've been looking a bit at the various software framework articles, trying to make sense of them. I'm not the first, but I'd like to work on making some sense of these concepts for readers. There is a lot of duplication between the various framework pages, and it would be nice if these could be
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the new intro paragraph does this too. I have good intentions of making more cleanups on this article. I'm fairly expert in this area myself -- I have a phd in software engineering from CMU and wrote my dissertation on a new technique to specify software frameworks. Regards, George.
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Callback (computer programming); there is no mention of frameworks there . and on this page, Callback is not identified as being the functions used by the Hollywood_Principle . (that use may be specific to Microsoft culture).
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framework. It seems that the term "software framework" currently refers to both. Are there actually conventional terms to refer to the different concepts, or do different people just have different ideas about what to call it?
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This articles contains very java/OOP specific language (use of "method" over "function," references to design patterns). This may confuse readers or cause them to think that a framework is an inherently object oriented concept.
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I assume that a framework is a frame. I think that that should be stated explicitly and the definition should be built upon that. A framework is something that other software is built upon and that holds the software together.
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Application Framework is a Software Framework, designed and developed for a particular Application. Software framework is broader in a sense that include third party frameworks. I could be wrong.
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Completely agreed. This article borders on being completely meaningless because it does very little to define before it attempts to discuss its merits or application as a concept. Poor! (11 April 2013)
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There is a difference between a CMS and a CMF. A framework will help one create a system that suits the user's needs. A system is the end product. The difference is in flexibility and ease of use.
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The text "unless the software is a compiler-object linker" doesn't make sense to me. Is it possible the author meant "uses a" instead of "is a"? And does "wholly controlled" mean independent?
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is a CMS. The best way to organize the list is to put the two on the same level in the hierarchy. A CMF is not better than a CMS nor should one be a 'container' of the other. --
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I'd like to start by creating categories for these frameworks, and maybe one of those section headers. I'll probably start this in the next day or two if no one beats me to it.
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