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No, Gilbert Levine can be "knight" or "chevalier", but he cannot be "Sir" because only Queen of UK can make from "ordinary" man "Sir". Pope dońt have power to ennoble somebody in UK without consent of the Queen and vice versa, the Queen don't have power to ordain bishop. Yes, pope can ennoble in
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