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The current title seems to be appropriate only to topic 2. Firstly, the disambiguator "(business)" doesn't make sense to the other topics, since both would cover society and other areas, not just business. Secondly, I can only guess that "New Normal", as opposed to "new normal", is a name coined by
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This article really needs some different perspective. The term "new normal" is used to justify a dramatic shift in socioeconomic power, and is most often used to deflect criticisms and make a fatalistic plea for acceptance of such power shifts in an "end of history" sense. Those using the term are
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is a state to which an economy, society, etc. settles following a crisis." This fits with the normal meaning of "normal". Maybe changes during the pandemic are relevant insofar as these changes are likely to play a part in shaping the society we come out of it into. But these changes themselves
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Removing the addition'll at least address these three issues, but the section needs more work generally. I think this essentially means finding more sources to give an adequate coverage of predictions of what will happen (or continue in the current new state) after the pandemic. Furthermore, I
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move to "new normal". I created this article several years ago when the term was primarily business related in the wake of the financial crisis. It's now applied to the fall out from COVID and fall outs from anything else, really. It should reflect the applicability of the term by ditching any
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per Crouch, Swale and the above discussion. Furthermore, it's true that the current title is miscapitalised, but neither "New normal (business)" nor "New normal (economic)" would be appropriate now. "New normal" is the only appropriate title I can think of for this to be moved to. —
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coronavirus". Having managed to bypass the geographical restriction via the W3C validator, I can see that the statement was copied from there with minor wording tweaks. But then someone added "until at least spring 2021". There are three problems with this:
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saying at all that people will social distance forever after the pandemic is over, which is absurd. When reading the article it is clear that when it says "after" coronavirus in the title, it is talking about after the virus arrived in society, i.e.
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wonder how many countries have recovered sufficiently that they have already settled to a new normal (perhaps save for restrictions on international travel). Hopefully we can source some information on what the new normal is like in these places.
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typically aligned with interests that, unlike the vast majority of a given population, benefit from "trough" conditions in a business cycle. In other words, it's a latter-day synonym for "pay no attention to the man behind the curtain".
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The current article is mostly about 2 with a bit of 3 thrown in. We could split out the info about 1 and 3 into a separate article. Or we could rewrite this to cover all three topics without giving undue weight to any one of them.
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the pandemic is, in my mind, nonsense, but it does appear that the phrase gets used to this effect. But regardless of how it gets used in practice, I say we need to distinguish carefully between the two concepts.
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the pandemic, not after the pandemic entirely. Our text must not misrepresent an article clearly making claims about during a pandemic in a way that makes it look like we are talking about a post-pandemic world.
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Not sure about this. I'm not sure I like "(term)" as a disambiguator personally. Furthermore, there doesn't seem to be any other meaning to disambiguate it from - none of the other meanings listed at
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have been relatively few. But it seems that most of the article content is specifically about the events of 2007-12. We need to either rework this article to redress the balance, or split it out.
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are of "new normal" written in lowercase. We don't put articles at disambiguating titles when there are no other Knowledge articles to disambiguate from. For example, the article
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source is clearly talking about the period between the lifting of lockdowns in May 2020 and the availability of a vaccine (which at the time was thought to take years). It is
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The generic concept of a 'new normal' as a state to which things settle following a major event, when this differs from the state of things before the event started.
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tells me that, at least in relation to topic 3, it isn't a proper noun. And it obviously isn't a proper noun in relation to topic 1. (See also the
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Thinking about it now, I think the best idea is if we can rewrite this to be primarily about topic 1, with sections about 2 and 3. I think simply
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It completely changes the meaning from a prediction of what will happen after the pandemic to a prediction of what will happen during it.
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Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a
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when talking about "new normal". Because of this, a lengthy discussion has been done regarding its rewrite and/or rename. I decided to
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because there's no other Boris Johnson who has a Knowledge article from whom he needs to be distinguished. If we put it at the title
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
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per suggestion but it needs to rewrite the whole article because many phase around before late 2000s financial crisis.
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for this capitalization, but the article needs work. The phrase was around before the late-2000s financial crisis.
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has an increasing use to refer the changes of human behavior changes during or after this pandemic."
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after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
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the pandemic then have this in a separate paragraph and explicitly address the semantic shift. —
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for example so people typing the capital "N" could well be looking for a proper noun, see views
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The financial conditions following the 2007-12 financial crisis and global recession.
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are not the new normal. To use the phrase "new normal" to describe things going on
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The state to which things will settle once the COVID-19 pandemic is over.
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I'm somewhat surprised that, so far, updates to this page due to the
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1st to resolve unnecessary disambiguation for that capitalisation.
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etc.. I don't know in other countries, but I could notice
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The title of the referenced article is "The 'new normal'
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Sidana, Purushottam Basava and Smarthveer (2020-05-02).
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It is out of place relative to the preceding sentences.
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Black Lives Matter
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