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Prodded because it clearly did not meet the criteria with the sources that were there. this is a community and the idea is to have articles that warrant their place in an encyclopedia. The subject may be notable but if the sources do allow the reader to verify that, then the article does not have its place on Knowledge. i hope you understand what I am getting at.
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Unfortunately I cannot reprod it now you have removed the PROD the next course of action is a delete discussion which can be very quick, which is one of the reasons I chose PROD as that gave you 7 days to improve the article and find the sources. I suggest we take this conversation to your talk page
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hi it's not about whose move it is, it's not a game or a competition. I am a new pages reviewer and when i come across a page that needs attention there are several things that can be done. If I can tidy it up myself I do, if it's just a case of adding sources that I can quickly find I do if it's a
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Hi thanks for the advice but I have read the criteria and concerning criteria 1. you may consider as may do lots of other people that this author is an important figure but this is not supported by the sources and this is what is needed. I would love to take your word for it but that's not how it
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